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mgnv and Eringobragh1916,

At long last I have found the birth certificate for Alexander Cummings, he was born to an Isabella Ferguson on 31/08/1890 at Coatbridge in Lanarkshire.

It appears that her husband William Cummings was not his father as there is a declaration on the birth certificate to that effect and something about she has not had any communication with William since he went to America 9 years before the birth of Alexander, due to my eyesight I cannot read it properly :-(

James

mgnv....I think we are all getting tied up in knots..!

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1®ion=UNITED_STATES
A search of "Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths, 1916-1947" for Clusker (exact) gets:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/N3DK-W3T
so John P=John Peter

PS I spotted Gins's James/Jane comment on the umpteenth rereading of the thread, so that's why I went back and checked the original image and made my supplementary comment.

Excellent ...Now thats another branch although not directly related but nevertheless interesting from the Ellen Clusker and Alex Cummings side of things...
The address for Burrows (Coatbrdge) was the one James gave for nok in Scotland on the Manifest (1908)..wonder who was there 1911?

Eringobragh1916,

The image available for the birth of Malcolm Cummins on SP was illegible so I e-mailed them to that effect.

They have just e-mailed me a copy of the original and it confirms he was born on 25/02/1878 to William Cummins and Isabella Cummins m.s. Ferguson at 24 Muslin Street in Glasgow, and that his parents were married in December 1872 in Coatbridge.

James
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Thanks for that Eringobragh1916,

At present I am working on finding this, so far no luck:-

1901 Census for Alred/Alfred Burrows (Son of James) 169 Buchanan St. Coatbridge.

James

James....Have found the marriage of a William "CUMMINS" to an Isabell Ferguson 17Dec.1872 Old Monkland....

Isabelle Cummings Burrows stated she was going to son William...in Springfield..well X ref.the info.and varying names/ permutations ...the following is most likely him DOB also corresponds with one found ;

William Cummins
gender: Male
baptism/christening date:
baptism/christening place:
birth date: 05 Jun 1874
birthplace: BRIDGETON,GLASGOW,LANARK,SCOTLAND
Parents William Cummin Isabelle Ferguson.




name: William J. Cummings
titles and terms (original):
death date: 09 Jun 1923
death place: Springfield, Sangamon, Illinois
gender: Male
marital status:
race or color:
age: 49
estimated birth year: 1874
birth date: 05 Jun 1874
birthplace: Scotland
father: W.J. Cummings
father's titles and terms (original):
father's birth place: Scotland
mother: E. Furgeson
mother's titles and terms (original):
mother's birth place: Scotland
occupation: Mine Examiner
residence:
street address:
spouse: Nellie Cummings
spouse's titles and terms (original):
spouse's birthplace:
burial date: 11 Jun 1923
burial place:
cemetery: Calvary Cemetery

James....I am not sure that marriage can be correct ..you are likely looking at one post 1890 as Alex Cumming/s was aged 17 when he travelled 1908 so b abt.1890 give or take a year otherwise Alex would have had the surname Burrows...

You may find checking 1901 Census for Alred/Alfred Burrows (Son of James) 169 Buchanan St. Coatbridge may give some info.

(See thread details page 4 ...12.39)

I have not got round yet to dealing with Mary McDade nee Clusker's death, at the moment I am sorting out my tree to accommodate Alexander Cumming and his family. Once I have dealt with Alexander Cumming and his family I will be back tracking on the post to pick up items I may have missed.

I noted the Burrow's connection as step parents, if I am correct this is the James Burrows who married an Isabella Duncan on 29 November 1872 in Lasswade, Midlothian,Scotland.

James

James..I know the feeling..this family is giving me nightmares..!! So much info ...I think we may all have gotten mixed up and side tracked...Spent hours looking for "Jane" and Ellen on immigration..well now I know the answer...but thats the way it goes..anyway the positive is we now have a time line for Mary McDade's death...somewhere between ?1920 and 1930...(Please dont tell me thats somewhere in the post as well!!) Just noticed Mary's not on 1920 census...!

Morning Eringobragh1916,

Unfortunately, from all the information posted, much of which I have found very useful, I also missed Gins comment stating that, had I picked that up I could have saved myself a lot of grief.

Regards,

James

James...If you go back to page 3 of the thread you will see that GINS has actually shown that the "Jane" is actually male on the original...

(I missed that myself)...so yes you may be correct in the assumption...

Morning mgnv, thanks for that,

Can I pass my present thoughts by you, if we accept that the Jane Clusker in the 1930 Census is in fact James Clusker, I have in my tree a James Clusker born c1856 In Ireland.

He married Mary McDade born c1857 and they had a daughter who I have as a Helen Clusker born 1893 in Scotland and on the 1901 Census her name is shown as Ellen.

Therefore it would be a reasonable assumption for me to accept that the above Helen/Ellen Clusker was the wife of Alexander Cummings.

Go on, say it, I have got :-S and have been going round in circles

Best Wishes,

James

1920
http://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu406unit#page/n551/mode/1up
self Alexander Cumming M 29y Scotland
wife Ellen Cumming F 26y Scotland
dau Mary A Cumming F 5y Illinois
son William Cumming M 3y5m Illinois
son Antony Cumming M 1y Illinois
[Their 1930 a of marr was 23/21 - so Mary A would be theirs - not clear from stated ages in 1930]

Incidentally, the previously given 1930 transcribed entry:
mother in law Jane Clusker F 75 Ireland
I read as
Father in law James Clusker F 75 Ireland
[Check the F in Father, and in Francis on the preceeding line]

1910 Burrows/Cummings
http://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po325unit#page/n340/mode/1up


1940
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZK-JHF
head Alex Cummings M 49 Scotland
wife Ellen Cummings F 46 Scotland
son Tony Cummings M 25 Illinois
son Buddy Cummings M 16 Illinois
daughter Nellie Cummings F 7 Illinois

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZV-LJ3
head William J Cummings M 23 Illinois
wife Juanita Cummings F 20 Kansas
son William Cummings M 3 Illinois
son Charles A Cummings M 1 Illinois
mother-in-law Helen Blane F 40 Kansas
sister-in-law Verna Triplett F 16 Missouri

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KWZN-JFF
head Fred Barlow M 31 Illinois
wife Mary Barlow F 25 Illinois
son Fred Barlow M 4 Illinois
[just in case Mary is Mary Cummings - using Frank's obit info]


Audrey R Shean Cummings
Birth: May 1, 1926
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA
Death: Dec. 12, 2006
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

Audrey R. Cummings, 80, of Springfield died Tuesday, Dec. 12, 2006, at Heritage Manor.

She was born May 1, 1926, in Springfield, the daughter of Robert E. and Rose Mary Meixner Shean. She married Francis J. Cummings in 1947; he died in 1994. A daughter, Cathleen P. Cummings, also preceded her in death.

Mrs. Cummings retired as a traffic statistician from the Illinois Department of Transportation in 1992 after 20 years. She was a member of Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, Opus Dei and Altar and Rosary Society.

Survivors: son, Robert D. (wife, Kathryn) Cummings of Mount Prospect; two grandchildren; brother, Raymond (wife, Anne) Shean of Springfield; and several nieces, nephews and cousins.

Services: Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, the Rev. Michael Haag officiating. Burial: Calvary Cemetery.

State Journal-Register(Springfield, IL) - December 13, 2006


Hits via a cemetery search for Calvary in Springfield, Sangamon Co, IL at:
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cs
then for Cummings or Clusker

Alexander Cummings
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

Ellen Cummings
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

Cathleen P Cummings
Birth: Apr. 28, 1954
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA
Death: Mar. 3, 1996
Minneapolis
Hennepin County
Minnesota, USA

Cathleen P. Cummings, 41, of Minneapolis, Minn., formerly of Springfield, died Sunday at her home.

She was born April 28, 1954, in Springfield, the daughter of Francis J. and Audrey R. Shean Cummings.

She was a psychologist and program director for Alternative Inc. She also had been employed as a claims reviewer with an insurance company. She was a graduate of Quincy College and earned a master's degree from St. Mary's College in Winona, Minn.

Survivors: mother, Audrey R. Cummings of Springfield; a brother, Robert D. Cummings of Mount Prospect; several aunts and uncles; and several nephews and cousins.

Services: Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, the Rev. Michael Mullink officiating. Burial: Calvary Cemetery.

State Journal-Register(Springfield, IL) - March 6, 1996


Anthony Clusker
Birth: 1889
Death: 1928
Agnes Clusker
Birth: 1891
Death: 1951
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

John Clusker
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

[Image of MI says John P Clusker.
I might remark that I've come across several instances where someone left the UK with no hint of a mid-name, but later acquire one in N America, usually a surname from somewhere in their tree.]

Mary Clusker
Birth: 1890
Death: 1942
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

Mary M Clusker
Birth: Jan., 1924
Death: Dec., 1969
Burial:
Calvary Cemetery
Springfield
Sangamon County
Illinois, USA

I have been working on the Cummings connection, as yet not found any marriage details for Alexander Cummings married to Ellen Clusker. I looked at the children showing in the 1930 US Census to see if that might show something, and found the obituary below for their son Francis, so the marriage did exist.

I wish my dad and his sister were still alive as they had relations from the US visit them in the 1960's, and I recall that the husband of the family yjat visited was a fireman in the US

"FRANCIS J. "BUD" CUMMINGS"

"Francis J. "Bud" Cummings, 70, of Springfield died at 6:55 a.m. Tuesday at St. John's Hospital. He was born February 17, 1924, in Springfield, the son of Alexander and Ellen Clusker Cummings. He married Audrey R. Shean in 1947. Preceding him in death were two brothers, William and Anthony Cummings; and a sister, Mary Barlow.

Mr. Cummings had been a firefighter for 14 years with the Springfield Fire Department. He retired after 20 years as a miner with Peabody Coal Co. He was a member of Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception and its Over 55 Club, DAV Hall Hagler Post 15 and American Legion Post 32. He was a veteran of World War II.

Surviving are his wife, Audrey of Springfield; a daughter, Cathleen P.Cummings of Minneapolis, Minnesota; a son, Robert D. Cummings of Chicago; two grandchildren; a sister, Mrs. Ellen Rachkus of Jacksonville; and several nieces, nephews and cousins.

Funeral Mass will be at 10 a.m. Friday at Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, with the Reverend Michael Mullink officiating. Burial will be in Calvary Cemetery. Staab Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements."

Hames

Eringobragh1916,

Before I log off for the day, I though I should post this update so everyone can see what I have sorted out today.

I looked at the marriage on SP for, John Kennedy and Mary Reynolds 1901, but no clue there to any McDade or Clusker connection.

I then looked at John Reynolds parents marriage, a Richard Reynolds and Mary Lafferty 1873, and again I drew a blank.

However today was not a total waste of time because when checking out some of the other names on this thread I was able to sort out, the Watson connection and from that discovered that Mary Watson was in fact married twice, first to a John Gray and secondly to Peter Graham. I also was able to determine all the children on the Watson side and the Gray side.

Regards & My Thanks to all,

James

John Kennedy was John James Kennedy (Draft Card Reg 1942) married to Mary "REYNOLDS" Kennedy.

All there graves are on find a grave..also a obit for John jnr.

So the MC for John and Mary (Scotland ) should help find if there is a connection between McDade /Clusker....

A John Kennedy married a Mary Reynolds 1901 Calderhead only i coming up on SP that would fit.

Hi Everyone,

That time again, I am going to log off now for the rest of today as my eyes are starting to play up :-(

My best wishes and thanks to everyone,

James

Been watching the football (takes precedance over everything..!) will peruse the Kennedy's ....

James.re Helen (Ellen Clusker) daughter of James and Mary she would not be the one who married Alex Cummings because his mother in law (Ellens mother) was a Jane Clusker not Mary.

I checked Scotlands people for a death of a Jane Kennedy nee Marron and a Jane Kennedy nee Dickey between 1875 and 1880 but nothing found, will extend my search.