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Gwenda
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24 Aug 2012 09:14 |
Can anyone offer help with my search for John Alloway & Sarah Glenister. Married or de facto. Appear in the 1841 Census as living in Cheltenham. One of their sons, George, born 1848, emigrated to New Zealand approximately 1865. At least as far as we can ascertain. George is my partner's great grandfather. ANy help appreciated. Gwenda Farrell & John Alloway. Featherston NZ.
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ErikaH
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24 Aug 2012 09:16 |
What are you trying to find out?
Please also give birth years
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ErikaH
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24 Aug 2012 09:23 |
Can't see a Sarah...........
1841 England Census
Name: John Alloway Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Cheltenham Hundred: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Cheltenham Sub-registration district: Cheltenham Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 353 Book: 3 Folio: 28 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age John Alloway 30 Elisabeth Alloway 30
1851 England Census about George Alloway Name: George Alloway Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Alloway Gender: M (Male) Where born: Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Cheltenham Town: Cheltenham County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England
Registration district: Cheltenham Sub-registration district: Cheltenham ED, institution, or vessel: 1b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 32 Piece: 1973 Folio: 43 Page Number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Alloway 39 William Alloway 9 Jane Alloway 7 George Alloway 4 Elizabeth Alloway 1 Richard Harles 40 Harriet Harles 47 William Harles 14 Charles Cook 21
If these records are not the right people, please post the correct records for our info
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brummiejan
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24 Aug 2012 09:30 |
Marriages Sep 1840 ALLOWAY John Cheltenham 11 257 COOPEY Emma Cheltenham 11 257 Gahagan Vincent Cheltenham 11 257 George Thomas Cheltenham 11 257 Glenister Elizabeth Cheltenham 11 257 HARRISON Esther Cheltenham 11 257 Page Mary Ann Cheltenham 11 257 Rumings John Cheltenham 11 257
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ErikaH
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24 Aug 2012 10:22 |
The solution, Gwenda, is to purchase the marriage cert. If they knew their fathers, the details will be recorded
I'm assuming that you've checked the IGI............
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You could also try asking Victor if he would do a lookup of the marriage info at Glos Records office.
He very kindly offers this service.......but you have to send a PM. He does not respond to requests posted to his thread
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1289431
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Gwenda
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25 Aug 2012 00:06 |
Oh, you wonderful people, Reggie & Brummiejan. You have found exactly what we needed. The marriage in particular plus the fulsome Census data 1841. Yes, I had forgotten to mention that John & Elizabeth were the same age, born C1811.
You mention did I check the IGI? Please explain?
Thank you for mentioning Victor in respect of more information at Gloucestor.
Again, a 1001 thanks. Gwenda & John. NZ.
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GlitterBaby
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25 Aug 2012 00:10 |
IGI - International Genealogical Index
Or called family search
https://familysearch.org/
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Gwenda
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25 Aug 2012 05:46 |
GlitterBaby, Thank you. I appreciate your reply & will certainly follow through.
Gwenda & John. Featherston. NZ.
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ErikaH
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25 Aug 2012 09:37 |
Some additional info which you can give to Victor to make his quest easier
Groom Surname Groom Forename Bride Surname Bride Forename District Parish Building Year Register Entry ALLOWAY John GLENISTER Elizabeth Cheltenham Cheltenham St Mary 1840 2 243
Taken from the Gls BMD site............you might like to check it out
http://ww3.gloucestershire.gov.uk/bmd/
The church in which they married is Cheltenham's Parish Church..........it has some of the most beautiful stained glass windows I have seen
Photos of the actual building at.............
http://www.churches-uk-ireland.org/towns/c/cheltenham.html
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PricklyHolly
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25 Aug 2012 09:38 |
On closer inspection of the 1841 census........also in the house with John and Elizabeth is...........Sarah Glenister age 25...Occ: Launderess.
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PricklyHolly
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25 Aug 2012 09:49 |
There are approx 15 trees on Ancestry with this family that all seem to have the same information.
Info taken form the "Alloway Tree" which you might like to check out for yourself.....
John, Elizabeth and children....William, Jane, Thomas and Elizabeth all arrived in Geelong, Victoria, Australia, on board the vessel "Joshua" on the 28th Sept 1854.
Elizabeth died 22nd May 1874 Ballarat Victoria Australia
John died 10th September 1863 Ballarat Victoria Australia
INQUEST for JOHN ALLAWAY 14 Sept 1863 , Ballarat Newspaper "STAR"
"STAR" published 14 Sept 1863
INQUEST
On Saturday, at the City of York Hotel, Ballarat, Dr. Glendinning held an inquest on the body of John Allaway, whose death, according to the evidence and the verdict of the jury, took place on Thursday instant, in his own house, Mopoke Gully, Ballarat, and arose from natural causes, being caused by extensive inflammation and mortification of the small intestines, arising from a strangulated inguinal hernia of the left side. The deceased was a native of Gloucestershire, a married man, with a wife and family, and fifty three years of age. His parents names were Jacob and Elizabeth Allaway. He was ruptured when fifteen years of age, but never wore a regular truss except of his own making. His health was good until last Christmas, when owing to a portion of some building having fallen upon him, the rupture increased, and his health declined rapidly thereafter.
You can check out this information on Ancestry's sister site....
www.mundia.com/
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PricklyHolly
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25 Aug 2012 10:07 |
Son Willam died 1889 West Melborne, Victoria, Australia.
Daughter Jane Elizabeth married Willaim Feary 1867 Victoria, Australia. Died 26/05/1943 Ballaret Victoria, Australia.
Son Thomas George married Marian Chamberlain 11/07/1874. Died 1923 Footscary, Victoria, Australia.
Daughter Elizabeth Sarah married Henry Lavender Holmes 1867 Victoria, Australia. Died 1933 Ballaret, Victoria, Australia.
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PricklyHolly
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25 Aug 2012 11:16 |
For some reason the baptism for Elizabeth Glenister won't open for me on Ancestry.
From the IGI...
Name: elizabeth glenister, Event: Birth, Place: clerkenwell london england, Event Range: 1811-1811 Elizabeth Glenister England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 birth: 03 Oct 1811 christening: 03 Nov 1811 CHRIST CHURCH GREYFRIARS NEWGATE,?LONDON,?LONDON,?ENGLAND Parents....John Glenister....Jane
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Sarah Putnam Glenister Name: Sarah Putnam Glenister Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 27th Sept 1814 Baptism Date: 16 Oct 1814 Father's Name: John Putnam Glenister (Joiner) Mother's Name: Jane Glenister Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers Abode: Aylsbury? Street.
According to tree's on Ancestry...Sarah died 26/06/1898 in Geelong, Victoria, Australia.
London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about John Putnam Glanister Name: John Putnam Glanister Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 26? Aug1816 Baptism Date: 15 Sep 1816 Father's Name: John Glanister (Carpenter) Mother's Name: Janet Glanister Parish or Poor Law Union: Christ Church Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Registers Abode: Newcastle Street.
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PricklyHolly
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25 Aug 2012 11:28 |
London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Jane Blackhall Name: Jane Blackhall (Spinster) of this parish. Spouse Name: John Pitman Glanister (Bachelor) of this parish. Record Type: Banns Event Date: 24 Dec 1810 Parish: St Leonard Foster Lane Borough: City of London Register Type: Parish Register
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PricklyHolly
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25 Aug 2012 11:32 |
John and Jane emigrated to Australia .....
Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 about John P Glenister Name: John P Glenister Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792 Age: 61 Arrival Date: 3 Aug 1853 Arrival Port: Geelong, Australia Departure Port: Southampton Ship: Mooltan Nationality: English and Welsh
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Gwenda
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26 Aug 2012 00:45 |
Reggie & Prickly Holly.
We are delighted & overwhelmed by the helpfulness of you very good folk & envious of your ability to search the data bases even more thoroughly.
John is down town just now, but this is his family, Alloway, & he will be blown away by all this help. Miraculous. Bless you all. Gwenda.
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ErikaH
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17 Jun 2014 08:42 |
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1341656
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