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Gee
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23 Mar 2013 19:10 |
Hi Rosamond
You need to post the questions that you asked in your PM to me and then we can take it from there
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Rosamond
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23 Mar 2013 17:51 |
Thank you to everyone who contacted me with your research on Isaac Bolter. All very interesting, even though some of the info I already knew, but there were much I did not. Sorry for not replying sooner, but since last August I have not been well and only just started to get back into the swing of most things, including family tree. Thanking you all once again. Kindest Regards Rosamond. :-)
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7 Aug 2012 11:35 |
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Deaths Mar 1863 Bolter Martha Devizes 5a 78
May be worth finding out who Jane named as her father?
Marriages Sep 1862 Bolter Jane Devizes 5a 135 Goodall Edward Devizes 5a 135
1891
Name: Jane Goodhall [Jane Goodall] Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relation: Wife Spouse's Name: Edward Goodhall Gender: Female Where born: Little Cheverell, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Little Cheverell Ecclesiastical parish: Little Cheverell County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Devizes Sub-registration district: Lavington ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 1601 Folio: 53 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Edward Goodhall 45 Jane Goodhall 50 James Goodhall 19 Charles Goodhall 17 Henry Goodhall 12
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Moody Blue
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7 Aug 2012 09:17 |
1841 census
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1186 Book/Folio: 3/6 Page: 6 Reg. District: Devizes Sub District: Lavington Parish: Little Cheverell Enum. District: Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Little Cheverell, Little Cheverell County: Wiltshire Name Relation Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born BOLTER, Thomas M 60 1781 Wiltshire BOLTER, Martha F 20 1821 Wiltshire BOLTER, Jane F 2 1839 Wiltshire MUNDAY, Samuel M 95 1746 Wiltshire BAILEY, John M 20 1821 Wiltshire ASHLEY, Jane F 25 1816 Wiltshire
possible death of Thomas (her father)
Civil Registration event: Death Print Close Name: BOLTER, Thomas Registration district: Devizes County: Wiltshire Year of registration: 1846 Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec Volume no: 8 Page no: 248
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ChristinaS
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7 Aug 2012 09:06 |
From familysearch.org
Jane Bolter baptised 16th September 1838 - Little Cheverell - mother Martha
Charles Bolter baptised 30th June 1844 - Little Cheverell - mother Martha
So Martha wasn't married when she had the children.
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Gee
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7 Aug 2012 08:48 |
Going on the possiblility that Martha didnt marry Charles' father
1841 England Census Name: Isaac Spier Age: 30 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Gender: Male Where born: Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Little Cheverell Hundred: Swanborough County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Devizes Sub-registration district: Lavington Piece: 1186 Book: 3 Folio: 6 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Isaac Spier 30 <<Ag labourer Ann Spier 30 1811 Elizabeth Spier 11 1830 Mary Spier 8 1833 George Spier 7 1834 John Spier 3 1838
On the same census page there are 'Bolter' and 'Balter' listed
Can you give us the occupation of Isaac from the marriage certificate and also the witnesses please
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Moody Blue
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7 Aug 2012 08:44 |
2nd christening matches the Martha in 1851 census:-
Name: Martha Boulter Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Feb 1814 Baptism/Christening Place: LITTLE CHEVERELL,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Thomas Boulter Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05462-2 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 1279344 Reference Number:
Name: Martha Boulter Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 12 Feb 1816 Baptism/Christening Place: LITTLE CHEVERELL,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: Thomas Boulter Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Elizabeth Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C05462-2 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 1279344 Reference Number
Martha's sister Maria Beavan in 1851 census?
England, Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 name: Maria Bolter gender: Female baptism/christening date: 23 Nov 1806 baptism/christening place: LITTLE CHEVERELL,WILTSHIRE,ENGLAND father's name: Thos. Bolter mother's name: Elizabeth indexing project (batch) number: C05462-1 system origin: England-ODM source film number: 950255
Maria's marriage:-
Groom's Name: William Biffin Groom's Birth Date: Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: Bride's Name: Maria Boulter Bride's Birth Date: Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: Marriage Date: 17 Oct 1826 Marriage Place: Little Cheverell,Wiltshire,England Groom's Father's Name: Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M05462-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 950255 Reference Number:
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Gee
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7 Aug 2012 08:25 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Name: Isaac Bolter Probate Date: 30 Jun 1866 Death Date: 16 Nov 1865 Death Place: Wiltshire, England Registry: Salisbury
Isaac Bolter, brickmaker of Little Cheverel, proved by oath of Abrham Bolter, brickmaker, son and sole executor
Effects under £1000
But it looks like this is the Isaac married to Elizabeth :-(
1851 England Census Name: Isaac Bolter Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1803 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Elizabeth Bolter Gender: M (Male) Where born: Lt Cheverell, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Little Cheverell County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Devizes Sub-registration district: Bishops Cannings ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Household schedule number: 53 Piece: 1839 Folio: 350 Page Number: 12 Household Members: Name Age Isaac Bolter 48 Elizabeth Bolter 50 Lavinea Bolter 22 Elizabeth Bolter 18 Abraham Bolter 16 Sophia Bolter 14 Jonah Bolter 11 As Jax says, you need the birth certificate for Charles
Just to add. How do you know Martha was living with her father in 1841? That census does not state relationships, Thomas could have been any family member
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7 Aug 2012 05:25 |
His possable birth which would name his parents or just mother
England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 about Charles Bolter Name: Charles Bolter Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1843 Registration district: Devizes Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 8 Page: 315 (click to see others on page)
his death England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Charles Bolter Name: Charles Bolter Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843 Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1911 Age at Death: 68 Registration district: Amesbury Inferred County: Wiltshire Volume: 5a Page: 101 (click to see others on page)
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Susan
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7 Aug 2012 04:28 |
That 1841 census has some interesting People on it .
Martha Willis abt 1837 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Sarah Balter abt 1781 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire <<<bolter also View Record John Munday abt 1791 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Sarah Munday abt 1791 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Henry Munday abt 1821 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Charlotte Munday abt 1826 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Thomas Bolter abt 1781 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Martha Bolter abt 1821 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Jane Bolter abt 1839 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Samuel Munday abt 1746 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record John Bailey abt 1821 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire View Record Jane Ashley abt 1816 Wiltshire, England Little Cheverell, Wiltshire
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jax
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7 Aug 2012 03:14 |
As you say she was living with her father in 1841 so it would indicate she was not married, otherwise her name would not be Bolter
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MargaretM
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7 Aug 2012 01:24 |
Martha listed as unmarried:
1861 England Census about Charles Boltor Name: Charles Boltor [Charles Bolter] Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relation: Son Mother's Name: Martha Boltor Gender: Male Where born: Cheverell Parva, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Cheverell Parva County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Devizes Sub-registration district: Lavington ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 46 Piece: 1291 Folio: 33 Page Number: 8 Household Members: Name Age Martha Boltor 44 Jane Boltor 23 Charles Boltor 16
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MargaretM
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7 Aug 2012 01:21 |
This looks like him, living next door to the Munday family:
1871 England Census about Charles Bolter Name: Charles Bolter Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Ann Bolter Gender: Male Where born: Chivred, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Tilshead Ecclesiastical parish: Tilshead Town: Tilshead County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Amesbury Sub-registration district: Orcheston ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 29 Piece: 1943 Folio: 19 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Charles Bolter 25 Eliza Ann Bolter 24 Edith Bolter 9 Months
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GlitterBaby
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7 Aug 2012 01:18 |
1851 no marital status given for Martha
Name: Martha Botter [Martha Bolter] Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815 Relation: Sister Gender: F (Female) Where born: Little Cheverell, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Little Cheverell County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image Registration district: Devizes Sub-registration district: Bishops Cannings ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 7 Piece: 1839 Folio: 345 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age Maria Beaven 46 William Beaven 21 Isaac Beaven 19 Richard Beaven 15 Martha Botter 36 Jane Botter 12 Charles Botter 7
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7 Aug 2012 01:14 |
1871 is this the correct family ? Name: Charles Bolter Age: 25 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Ann Bolter Gender: Male Where born: Chivred, Wiltshire, England Civil parish: Tilshead Ecclesiastical parish: Tilshead Town: Tilshead County/Island: Wiltshire Country: England Registration district: Amesbury Sub-registration district: Orcheston ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 29 Piece: 1943 Folio: 19 Page Number: 5 Household Members: Name Age Charles Bolter 25 Eliza Ann Bolter 24 Edith Bolter 9 Months Class: RG10; Piece: 1943; Folio: 19; Page: 5; GSU roll: 830878.
1881 gives place of birth as Little Cheverel, Wiltshire
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GlitterBaby
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7 Aug 2012 01:11 |
Just for info
Marriages Dec 1869 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Blake Jane Amesbury 5a 351 Bolter Charles Amesbury 5a 351 HIBBERD Elias Amesbury 5a 351 Munday Eliza Ann Amesbury 5a 351
What is the occupation of his father? Witnesses?
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GlitterBaby
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7 Aug 2012 01:10 |
When and where does Charles give as for his birth on census records ?
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Rosamond
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7 Aug 2012 00:48 |
Help!!!!!
I am trying to trace my great great grand father. On the wedding cert of my great grand parents, Charles Bolter and Eliza Munday 1869, Charles father is stated as Isaac Bolter. No mention that he was deasesed, The only Isaac Bolter I can find in records within the dates was married to Elizabeth Weeks and they did not have a son Charles. Charles mother was Martha Bolter . In the 1841 census she is living with her father in Tilshead, wiltshire. She had 2 children Charles and Jane. But no mention of a husband/father. Any help would be great. Kind regards Rosamond
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