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Madmeg

Madmeg Report 20 Feb 2012 22:56

Name: MAYNARD, William Thomas
Registration district: [?] Bethnal Green
County: London
Year of registration: 1875
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: [?] 1C
Page no: [?] 586
MarriageFinderâ„¢:
[?] William Thomas Maynard married married one of the following people Transcript
HOWES, Cecilia VIEW

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 20 Feb 2012 22:54

I can't find Celia Maynard in 1881 with a child Hannah. I can find this one:

MAYNARD, William Head Married M 32 1849 Gardener Domestic Servant
South Bersted
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Celia Wife Married F 30 1851
Ashurst
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, William Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Hove
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Thomas Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Hove
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Celia Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Hove
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Louisa Daughter Single F 4 1877
Hove
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Ellen Daughter Single F 2 1879
Ewhurst
Surrey VIEW
MAYNARD, Annie Daughter Single F 0 1881
Ewhurst
Surrey VIEW

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Piece:
793 Folio:
12 Page:
17 Registration District:
Hambledon

Civil Parish:
Ewhurst Municipal Borough:
Address:
Maybanks Cot, Ewhurst County:
Surrey

You said they had two other kids - who were they?

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Feb 2012 22:54

The birth certificate you have for Henry and Sarah Olive's son doesn't name him as George Henry does it ?
.......... and would they call a son George Henry when they already had a son Henry ?

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 20 Feb 2012 22:45

Julia, it would help if you put before us ALL the information you have already found, e.g. Hannah being the child of Celia Howes and William Maynard. What happened to William Maynard?

This isn't going to be straightforward as there is no apparent marriage to George, so no proof as to who his father was. But maybe, if we have ALL the information, someone will spot something that might give a clue.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Feb 2012 22:43

So her real name was Cecilia

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Marriages Mar 1875
Howes Cecilia - Bethnal Green 1c 586
MAYNARD William Thomas - Bethnal Green 1c 586

Julia

Julia Report 20 Feb 2012 22:34

madmeg,thats my problem. i can trace celia back as i have a paper trail but nothing for george! Hannah was born to celia and william maynard with at least 2 other kids. celias maiden name was howes

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Feb 2012 22:32

Julia, just answer the questions please and we can try to work it out if possible..

Twice we've asked what your Grandmother's maiden name was.
Also who did she marry ( Hannah's father)

Julia

Julia Report 20 Feb 2012 22:25

mike,i dont know what else to do :-S

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 20 Feb 2012 22:23

So whose parents are Hannah, age 12 in 1891?

I bet George is the fella on the 1881 census "married" to Eliza - but I've not found a marriage.

What is Celia's maiden name?

I'm not seeing a way to prove who George's parents were.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Feb 2012 22:21

My point being that just because Hannah has used the name Olive, she wasn't registered in that name .
so by the same token how do you know George was actually born Olive ?

As there is no birth recorded for George Henry Olive, you need to be careful not to plump for one which you think might fit.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Feb 2012 22:17

Sorry, I meant this Sarah.

OLIVE, Sarah Daughter Married
1 years F 23 1888 Tent Stitching London Hoxton


Not the one who married Anthony Baldwin in 1866

Julia

Julia Report 20 Feb 2012 22:10

Mike, Hannah was a child from previous marriage -

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Feb 2012 22:08

Name: Anthony Baldwin
Age: full age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Spouse Name: Sarah Oliver minor
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 1 Oct 1866
Parish: South Hackney St John of Jerusalem
Borough: Hackney
Father Name: Anthony Baldwin
Spouse Father Name: Henry Oliver contractor
Register Type: Parish Register


address South Hackney


so seems to be a sister of George,if its the right family

Julia

Julia Report 20 Feb 2012 22:06

its a bit of a strange family, celia - my gggrandmother was married to someone else and had a few children with her husband then got together with George in the 1880's my ggrandmother Sarah was the first child they had together, the problem is going backwards not forwards, i have all the information from 1891 onwards but not before. there was a rumour that George was from a travelling family but i have no record of this and nothing listed on the census's he is on saying anything about this. it is like he doesnt exist before 1887 when my ggranmother was born.

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Feb 2012 22:06

Trouble is he may not have been born Olive at all ...... just as daughter Hannah wasn't

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Feb 2012 22:05

She married Anthony Baldwin
1871
ame: Antoney Balwin
[Anthony Baldwin]
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah Balwin
Gender: Male
Where born: Shoreditch
Civil parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints Haggerstone
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Shoreditch
Sub-registration district: Haggerston West
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Household schedule number: 76
Piece: 467
Folio: 35
Page Number: 12
Household Members:
Name Age
Antoney Balwin 25
Sarah Balwin 23
Augustus Balwin 2
Jane E Barnett 25
View

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 467; Folio: 35; Page: 12; GSU roll: 823

Julia

Julia Report 20 Feb 2012 22:01

shirley, this looks like the family I am trying to link to my gggrandfather and madmeg, yes that is them on the 1891 census, he was a bit of a lad as he never married. so unsure if the 1881 census is the right one but occupation is right

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 20 Feb 2012 22:01

??
Name: Sarah Olive
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1866
Registration district: Hackney
Inferred County: London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 661

spouse Anthony Baldwin or John Castle

Mike *

Mike * Report 20 Feb 2012 21:58

What was your grandmother Celia's maiden name.?



Daughter Sarah is listed as married but with surname Olive ?

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 20 Feb 2012 21:57

1901?

OLIVE, George Head Married M 48 1853 Boot Finisher
Hackney
London VIEW
OLIVE, Cecila Wife Married F 46 1855 Tie Maker
St Lukes
London VIEW
OLIVE, Sarah Daughter Single F 13 1888
Hoxton
London VIEW
OLIVE, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 11 1890
Hoxton
London VIEW
OLIVE, George Son Single M 9 1892
Hoxton
London VIEW
OLIVE, Albert Son Single M 8 1893
Hoxton
London VIEW
OLIVE, Harry Son Single M 5 1896
Hoxton
London VIEW
OLIVE, Caroline J Daughter Single F 1 1900
Hoxton
London VIEW
FORDHAM, Rosina Boarder Single F 2 1899
Hoxton
London VIEW

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Piece:
277 Folio:
91 Page:
47 Registration District:
Shoreditch

Civil Parish:
Shoreditch Municipal Borough:
Address:
60, Ely Place, Shoreditch County:
London

And 1911:

OLIVE, George Head Married
25 years M 60 1851 Boot Repairer Haggerston VIEW
OLIVE, Cecilla Wife Married
25 years F 59 1852 Golden Lane VIEW
OLIVE, Sarah Daughter Married
1 years F 23 1888 Tent Stitching London Hoxton VIEW
OLIVE, George Son Single M 20 1891 Chair Frame Maker London Hoxton VIEW
OLIVE, Mary Ann Daughter Single F 21 1890 Tent Stitching London Hoxton VIEW
OLIVE, Albert Son Single M 18 1893 Fish Fryer London Hoxton VIEW
OLIVE, Harry Son Single M 15 1896 Chair Frame Maker London Hoxton VIEW
OLIVE, Caroline Daughter F 12 1899 School London Hoxton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1332 Reference:
RG14PN1332 RG78PN46 RD16 SD1 ED11 SN448

Registration District:
Shoreditch Sub District:
Shoreditch South Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Shoreditch

Address:
23 Essex St Hoxton County:
London

Married 25 years