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Sorry, I meant this Sarah.

OLIVE, Sarah Daughter Married
1 years F 23 1888 Tent Stitching London Hoxton


Not the one who married Anthony Baldwin in 1866

My point being that just because Hannah has used the name Olive, she wasn't registered in that name .
so by the same token how do you know George was actually born Olive ?

As there is no birth recorded for George Henry Olive, you need to be careful not to plump for one which you think might fit.

So whose parents are Hannah, age 12 in 1891?

I bet George is the fella on the 1881 census "married" to Eliza - but I've not found a marriage.

What is Celia's maiden name?

I'm not seeing a way to prove who George's parents were.

mike,i dont know what else to do :-S

Julia, just answer the questions please and we can try to work it out if possible..

Twice we've asked what your Grandmother's maiden name was.
Also who did she marry ( Hannah's father)

madmeg,thats my problem. i can trace celia back as i have a paper trail but nothing for george! Hannah was born to celia and william maynard with at least 2 other kids. celias maiden name was howes

So her real name was Cecilia

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Marriages Mar 1875
Howes Cecilia - Bethnal Green 1c 586
MAYNARD William Thomas - Bethnal Green 1c 586

Julia, it would help if you put before us ALL the information you have already found, e.g. Hannah being the child of Celia Howes and William Maynard. What happened to William Maynard?

This isn't going to be straightforward as there is no apparent marriage to George, so no proof as to who his father was. But maybe, if we have ALL the information, someone will spot something that might give a clue.

The birth certificate you have for Henry and Sarah Olive's son doesn't name him as George Henry does it ?
.......... and would they call a son George Henry when they already had a son Henry ?

I can't find Celia Maynard in 1881 with a child Hannah. I can find this one:

MAYNARD, William Head Married M 32 1849 Gardener Domestic Servant
South Bersted
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Celia Wife Married F 30 1851
Ashurst
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, William Son Single M 10 1871 Scholar
Hove
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Thomas Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Hove
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Celia Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Hove
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Louisa Daughter Single F 4 1877
Hove
Sussex VIEW
MAYNARD, Ellen Daughter Single F 2 1879
Ewhurst
Surrey VIEW
MAYNARD, Annie Daughter Single F 0 1881
Ewhurst
Surrey VIEW

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Piece:
793 Folio:
12 Page:
17 Registration District:
Hambledon

Civil Parish:
Ewhurst Municipal Borough:
Address:
Maybanks Cot, Ewhurst County:
Surrey

You said they had two other kids - who were they?

Name: MAYNARD, William Thomas
Registration district: [?] Bethnal Green
County: London
Year of registration: 1875
Quarter of registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name Not available before 1912
Volume no: [?] 1C
Page no: [?] 586
MarriageFinder™:
[?] William Thomas Maynard married married one of the following people Transcript
HOWES, Cecilia VIEW

Probably the right birth

Name: MAYNARD, Hannah Celia
Registration district: [?] Holborn
County: London
Year of registration: 1878
Quarter of registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's maiden name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume no:[?] 1B
Page no:[?]816

I posted the 1875 marriage

which is why I ask.....

William and Thomas Maynard were born before Cecelia married. Were they her husband's children or were they born as Howes ?

right, my ggrandmother was born sarah olive in 1887 father george olive mother celia/cecili olive formally maynard nee howes. i have her parents. she married wiliam maynard in 1875 and i have found 3 children, hannah, ester and thomas. in 1881 hannah and ester were living with their grandparents, tom with his father, cecelia with friends. poss george living with eliza. i hope this helps <3

sorry computor on go slow. the 1881 for maynards in surrey wrong one <3

So does George's name appear anywhere as George Henry apart from his death cert ?

Children's birth certs, marriages etc ... is he always just George ?

the birth certi just said george. the death cert said george henry

just george on childrens birth and marriages but named sons george and henry

Then maybe whoever registered his death added Henry in error which would account for not being able to find a birth for George Henry.


He called his sons George and Henry after himself and maybe his father ( unless Celia's father was Henry ?)

The Thomas on the 1881 census posted previously must be this one...
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THOMAS JAMES MAYNARD --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Event(s):
Birth: 12 JAN 1873 Hove, Sussex, England

Christening:
Death: 10 JAN 1961
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Parents:
Father: WILLIAM MAYNARD
Mother: CECELIA MOBSBY



But you say that there was a son Thomas to your Celia ?
When was he born ?
(still looking for them in 1881)