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James and Robert Knox Irvine Updated
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HeyJudeB4Beatles | Report | 23 Aug 2011 18:31 |
My great grandfather James Irvine was born in 1847 in Forgan Fife. I can find him at 1851 and 1861 censuses (as a scholar). He marries in 1870 (occupation Engineer) and in 1871 I find him in Dundee harbour aboard the Esquimaux which I believe was one of the Dundee whalers (occupation fireman). In 1891 he is in Newport South Wales (occupation Marine Engineer). I can't find him in 1881 (wife Elizabeth and son Robert K are seemingly alone in Scotland). |
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Gee | Report | 23 Aug 2011 18:38 |
I dont know if this is him |
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Gee | Report | 23 Aug 2011 18:41 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 |
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Gee | Report | 23 Aug 2011 18:59 |
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941 |
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HeyJudeB4Beatles | Report | 23 Aug 2011 18:59 |
Elizabeth and James married in May 1870. First son William was born a month later (oops!!) and died in 1872. Robert Knox was born in July 1871 and is with mother Elizabeth in 1881 in Dundee. Third son - also William - was born August 1873 and died 11 months later in 1874. Daughter Isabella Williamina (my gran) was born July 1882, her brother James Neish Irvine in 1885 - all in Scotland and finally, Elizabeth Adelaide in 1890 after they moved to South Wales. So James was around in the 1870s which would suggest that the Australia connection is not him. |
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HeyJudeB4Beatles | Report | 23 Aug 2011 19:01 |
Ginny - re Robert "at sea" was being kind as anecdotally he fell off the gang plank into the dock.....but the record for James definitely says at sea though not where. I did quite a bit of research on the Dundee whalers but I can't find anything that would pinpoint a possible location for him |
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HeyJudeB4Beatles | Report | 3 Apr 2013 13:13 |
I thought I would update this old thread - and mark it as answered because, quite inadvertently on another thread you wonderful people have helped me to answer this one! |
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HeyJudeB4Beatles | Report | 5 Nov 2013 18:01 |
For interest only...I was at a funeral today of my dad's cousin's wife. I met - many for the first time - my grand aunt's children.And they told me a story of how James Irvine - my great grandfather - was not supposed to be on the SS Harlsey that voyage. But someone was sick and he volunteered. The night before he woke at home from a nightmare, screaming and shouting, clawing at the wardrobe door "let me out, let me out". My great grandmother insisted he did not sail as "this was a premonition". He did...and how right she was! :-( |
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