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Pension/Service Records Look-Up please

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Kim

Kim Report 9 Aug 2014 08:37

Thanks very much for the replies (& Medal Card Flip Flop). As i said there are a number of Joseph William Dawson's that it could be, i just can't narrow it down. Will have to try & track down other relatives to see if anyone can shed any light on it.

Flip

Flip Report 9 Aug 2014 08:18

I should have refreshed first!

Have sent the medal card from ancestry by PM

Flip

Flip Report 9 Aug 2014 08:09

I think what you've found is 1 medal card, for Joseph W Dawson who transferred from one regiment to the other - so the same person. His medal card is on ancestry, I can PM you a copy but it doesn't give any details.

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 9 Aug 2014 08:03

Description:Medal card of Dawson, Joseph W
Corps Regiment No Rank
East Yorkshire Regiment 11306 Private
Northumberland Fusiliers 24972 Private
Northumberland Fusiliers 24972 Private

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/records/medal-index-cards-ww1.htm


UK, Silver War Badge Records, 1914-1920 (Ancestry)
Name: Joseph W. Dawson
Discharge Unit: Depot Northumberland Fusiliers
Regiment: Northumberland Fusiliers
Regimental Number: 24972
Rank: Pte.
(Enlistment 1/9/14 Discharge 20/8/17 Cause Sickness Served Overseas Yes)


Historical Background
The British Empire lost more than 700,000 service personnel killed in World War 1. An even greater number were discharged because of wounds or illness. In September 1916, King George V authorized the Silver War Badge (SWB) to honor all military personnel who had served at home or overseas since 4 August 1914 and who had been discharged because of wounds or illness. The SWB was a small, circular badge made of sterling silver, bearing the king’s initials, a crown, and the inscriptions ‘For King and Empire’ and ‘Services Rendered’.

The SWB was not simply an honor; it also served a practical purpose. At the time, men of military age who were not obviously in the service were sometimes accosted or insulted by civilians presenting them with white feathers — a symbol of cowardice — for shirking their patriotic duty. The badge served as an outward symbol that the wearer’s duty to country had been honorably fulfilled.

Chris :)

(as you know, not all Records survived)

Kim

Kim Report 8 Aug 2014 18:21

I have found another possibility for Joseph William Dawson for which there appears to be 2 x Service Records on TNA

11306 Private East Yorkshire Regiment &
24972 Private Northumberland Fusilisers

If anyone can help with pension/service records to ascertain if this is my ancestor, it would be much appreciated

Just to refresh he was born in Longton, Stoke on Trent in 1895 & Married May Brown in Morpeth in 1914. His occupation on my grandfather's birth certificate in 1916 is Private Northumberland Fusiliers (& Collier)

Thanks in anticipation

Kim

Kim Report 10 May 2011 21:19

Following on from the above.......i have just spent a frustrating 3hrs searching ancestry for Service Records for Joseph Dawson (No.10841 & 16150) to see if i can ascertain which one is my g.grandfather by his next of kin.
I don't know where i am going wrong. I signed up to the 14day trial to try to get to the bottom of this puzzle, but am finding it very difficult to find the information i am looking for. Searching by Regt and No. didn't find any matches. Can anyone help me plse :S

Kim

Kim Report 18 Apr 2011 22:53

Oops sorry !!

Flick

Flick Report 18 Apr 2011 22:41

GB said 'rule out 30569' at the start of her post....then gave the explanation for her remark

Kim

Kim Report 18 Apr 2011 22:29

Thanks Glitter Baby, but that isn't the right Joseph Dawson. Mine married on 8th Aug 1914 (i have marriage certificate) in Morpeth and his address at the time of marriage was Woodhorn Road, Ashington & his wife May (nee Brown) was living at Castle Terrace, Ashington.
His first child was my Grandfather Joseph William Dawson who was born in 1916 in Guide Post, Bedlington.
The family were still living in Guide Post when May died in 1932. I don't know when & where Joseph died or whether he re-married (is wife died in childbirth aged 39)

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 17 Apr 2011 22:38

Rule out 30569

His pension record survives. Miner was his occupation.

Mentions the address of either 2 Middle Road,Sherriff Hill and then 2 Middle Road, Shellbough Hill

Gives date of marriage as 8-1-12 but not yet found the wife mentioned by name.His first child born was Amelia 1911

4 Jan 1915 gives his age as 26 years 294 days

Kim

Kim Report 17 Apr 2011 22:11

I know.....i think they were destroyed in WW2. Worth a try though.

Kim

Kim Report 17 Apr 2011 22:00

I am trying to find Army Records for my Great Grandfather Joseph Dawson who served in the 11th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers in WW1.
I have found 3 possible matches on the Medal Rolls, but as i don't know his service number, i don't know which one, if any, it could be. (16150, 10841, 30569).

He was born in Longton, Stoke-on-Trent in c1895 and married May Lilian Brown 8th August 1914 at Morpeth Register Office. His occupation on his son's birth certificate in 1916 is listed as "Private 11th Battalion Northumberland Fusiliers (Colliery Labourer Belowground)"

I am interested in where he served and how long he was in the Army.

I don't subscribe to Ancestry btw. Thanks