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Alice Beatrice Street, born 1874 Loughton, married John Sadler. She was the daughter of George Street (1838-1892) and Louisa Cooper and the grand-daughter of Thomas Street (1812-1884) and Rachel Bacon (1810-1975).
Alice Street, born 1874 Loughton, married George Higgins. She was the daughter of Albert James Street (1851) and Lydia Lee (1854-1890) and the grand-daughter of Thomas Street and Rachel Bacon.

George Street was the older brother of Albert James Street, so the 2 Alice Street were cousins.

I am descended from William Street (1826-1881), younger brother of Thomas Street (1812-1884).

Hope that helps.
Angie

Lydia Lee, Alice Street's mother, was born in Plaistow - Cherry Island..

All the Streets in Loughton/Buckhurst Hill are related. Probably the ones in Enfield too! James (Albert) Street was the father-in-law of George Higgins and must have moved in with them when Lydia died. I now have 4 Alice Streets on my tree. :-)

Thanks all of you for your help with this and I am just going to do a correction on Ancestry of the 1901 census.

Someone will be pleased to find their rellies when they could'nt before.

I had an enquiry this morning about Alice Street in my tree and thats why I was trying to follow her up.

I shall now have to contact this person and tell them what I have found out.

Thanks Choccy, Christina, Mandy and Ann of Green Gables for helping a silly old fool!!!

Ah I see the 1911 census has her born Loughton Essex.

I may have to invest in a marriage cert as Choccy said if I am to sort this out once and for all.

If that is definitely your family with John Sadler, you need to get their marriage certificate (if you don't already have it) to find out Alice's father's name and occupation.

It looks as though James Street born 1850 is probably not your line, if his daughter Alice married George Higgins.

I wonder if they were just lodgers or some kind of rellies.

It is really a mystery this one.

Funny this as it says that Georges Wife Alice was born in Plaistow??????

Found them at last and just look at the last name which must be Genty.!!!!!!

Gusty Stout!!!!! gosh did I laugh.

1901 England Census
about George Heggins
Name: George Heggins
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice Heggins
Gender: Male
Where born: Sx, Loughton

Civil Parish: Loughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Loughton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Epping
Sub-registration district: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
George Heggins 31
Alice Heggins 26
Mary H Heggins 8
James H Heggins 6
Geo Wm Heggins 4
Robert Heggins 8 Months
James Stout 51
Louise Stout 17
Leonard Stout 15
Phoebe Stout 13
Gusty Stout 11

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1639; Folio: 34; Page: 20.

Oh thanks Christine you are a treasure. I will look now.

Hello Mandy thanks for popping in!! and thats the line I was following but now I am questioning it.

Choccy that is my family with John Sadler.

Have just found another Alice Beatrice Street 1875 Loughton Essex, I wonder if it was her he married????

Mel on Ancestry for 1901 you will find them under HEGGINS and STOUT all mistranscribed!!

1861?

Name: James Street
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Street
Mother's name: Rachael Street
Gender: Male
Where born: Loughton, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Loughton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Epping
Sub-registration district: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Street 45
Rachael Street 47
Lucy Street 26
George Street 25
Jane Street 20
Thomas Street 16
William Street 14
Charles Street 12
James Street 9

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Just typed loads and lost the lot.


This is the marriage I found for my John Sadler 1871.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Sadler
Name: John Sadler
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Epping
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 442



Charles Francis Bartlett 1893 Epping Essex
Alice Maud Looker 1893 Epping Essex
Alice Maude Looker 1893 Epping Essex
John Sadler 1893 Epping Essex
Alice Street 1893 Epping Essex

think you will have to get one of the marriage certificates to confirm which one Alice married - there were obviously two Alice Streets


The 1901 census I posted with James Street as 'father-in-law' has same children with him as in 1891.

I'm using FMP

??

Marriages Sep 1892

Higgins George W. Ham 4a 151
Merrett Arthur George W. Ham 4a 151
Street Alice West Ham 4a 151
Wheeler Agnes Mary W. Ham 4a 151


but I see what you mean -

1901

SADLER, John Head Married M 30 1871 Coachman Not Domestic
Messing
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Alice Wife Married F 25 1876
Loughton VIEW
SADLER, Fredk Son M 6 1895
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Ellen Daughter F 5 1896
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, George Son M 3 1898
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Voilet Daughter F 1 1900
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Florence J Daughter F 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Charles Brother Single M 37 1864 Cabman
Messing
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Arthur Brother Single M 35 1866 Potman
Messing
Essex VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1639 Folio:
43 Page:
7

Registration District:
Epping Sub District:
Chigwell Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary's

Civil Parish:
Loughton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Smarts Lane, Loughton, Village County:
Essex

Choccy I still can't find them on Ancestry on the 1901 and I have looked up James 1850 and George Higgins 1870.

Name: Alice Street
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a p 151
George Higgins is on same page

Thanks AOGG thats the only other census I could find him on with wife Lydia Biertely.