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Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 14:21

Hi All,

I can't find James Street 1852 born Essex on the 1901 census.

I can only find him on the 1881 and 1891 where he is a widower. I have looked for his children on the 1901 too without any luck.

I wonder if a fresh pair of younger eyes could help please?

For ref the 1891 census where his last child was Genta who seems to be registered as Genty. His wife Lydia died in 1890.

1891 England Census
about James A Street
Name: James A Street
Age: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Loughton, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Loughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist
Town: Loughton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:Epping New Rd.

Occupation: General Labourer.

Registration district: Epping
Sub-registration district: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
James A Street 39
Alice Street 17
James Street 15
Rachel E Street 13
Louisa Street 9
Leonard Street 5
Pheobe Street 3
Genta Street 1

I have his marriage to Lydia but not the cert.

Thanks for your time Mel

Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Jan 2011 14:29



1901

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation
Disability Where Born Original
census
image

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HIGGINS, George Head Married M 31 1870 Carman
Loughton
Essex VIEW
HIGGINS, Alice Wife Married F 26 1875
Plaistow
Essex VIEW
HIGGINS, Mary H Daughter Single F 8 1893
Loughton
Essex VIEW
HIGGINS, James H Son Single M 6 1895
Loughton
Essex VIEW
HIGGINS, Geo Wm Son Single M 4 1897
Loughton
Essex VIEW
HIGGINS, Robert Son Single M 0 (8 MOS) 1901
Loughton
Essex VIEW
STREET, James Father-In-Law Widower M 51 1850 Chimney Sweeper
Loughton
Essex VIEW
STREET, Lousie Daughter Single F 17 1884 Laundress
Loughton
Essex VIEW
STREET, Leonard Son Single M 15 1886 Erand Boy
Loughton
Essex VIEW
STREET, Phoebe Daughter Single F 13 1888
Loughton
Essex VIEW
STREET, Emly Daughter Single F 11 1890
Loughton
Essex VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1639 Folio:
34 Page:
20

Registration District:
Epping Sub District:
Chigwell Enumeration District:
11 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Johns

Civil Parish:
Loughton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Goldings Hill Lower Road, Loughton County:
Essex


AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Jan 2011 14:32

birth: 1852 — Loughton, Essex, England
residence: Loughton, Essex, England
spouse: Lydia Street

record title: England and Wales Census, 1881
name: James Street
age: 29
gender: Male
birth year: 1852
birthplace: Loughton, Essex, England
relationship to head of household: Head
marital condition: Married
profession / occupation: General Laborer
address: Woodberry Hill
census place: Loughton, Essex, England
record type: Household
family history library film: 1341418
the national archives reference: RG11
piece / folio: 1735 / 17
page number:

Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Jan 2011 14:33



1911

HIGGINS, George Head Married M 41 1870 Labourer Farm Loughton VIEW
HIGGINS, Alice Wife Married
18 years F 35 1876 House Wife Loughton VIEW
HIGGINS, James Son Single M 16 1895 Farm Labourer Loughton VIEW
HIGGINS, George Son M 14 1897 Assistant Errand Boy Loughton VIEW
HIGGINS, Robert Son M 9 1902 Assistant Errand Boy Loughton VIEW
HIGGINS, Lenonard Son M 7 1904 Assistant Errand Boy Loughton VIEW
HIGGINS, Louie F 3 1908 Assistant Errand Boy Loughton VIEW
>>>>>STREET, James Lodger Widower M 54 1857 Chimney Sweep Loughton VIEW
STREET, Louie Lodger Single F 26 1885 Laundry Maid Loughton VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
9776 Reference:
RG14PN9776 RG78PN515 RD189 SD1 ED13 SN77

Registration District:
Epping Sub District:
Chigwell Enumeration District:
13 Parish:
Loughton

Address:
Lower Road Golding Hill Loughton County:
Essex

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 14:35

Oh Choccy that sounds like them. The only thing is............I thought Alice his daughter married John Sadler 1871.

I shall have to have another look.

Thanks Choccy.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 14:39

Thanks AOGG thats the only other census I could find him on with wife Lydia Biertely.

Christina

Christina Report 7 Jan 2011 14:45

Name: Alice Street
Year of Registration: 1892
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: West Ham
County: Essex, Greater London
Volume: 4a p 151
George Higgins is on same page

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 14:46

Choccy I still can't find them on Ancestry on the 1901 and I have looked up James 1850 and George Higgins 1870.

Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Jan 2011 14:47



??

Marriages Sep 1892

Higgins George W. Ham 4a 151
Merrett Arthur George W. Ham 4a 151
Street Alice West Ham 4a 151
Wheeler Agnes Mary W. Ham 4a 151


but I see what you mean -

1901

SADLER, John Head Married M 30 1871 Coachman Not Domestic
Messing
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Alice Wife Married F 25 1876
Loughton VIEW
SADLER, Fredk Son M 6 1895
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Ellen Daughter F 5 1896
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, George Son M 3 1898
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Voilet Daughter F 1 1900
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Florence J Daughter F 0 (2 MOS) 1901
Loughton
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Charles Brother Single M 37 1864 Cabman
Messing
Essex VIEW
SADLER, Arthur Brother Single M 35 1866 Potman
Messing
Essex VIEW

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RG number:
RG13 Piece:
1639 Folio:
43 Page:
7

Registration District:
Epping Sub District:
Chigwell Enumeration District:
12 Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Mary's

Civil Parish:
Loughton Municipal Borough:
Address:
Smarts Lane, Loughton, Village County:
Essex


Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Jan 2011 14:48




I'm using FMP

Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Jan 2011 14:50



think you will have to get one of the marriage certificates to confirm which one Alice married - there were obviously two Alice Streets


The 1901 census I posted with James Street as 'father-in-law' has same children with him as in 1891.



Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 14:59

Just typed loads and lost the lot.


This is the marriage I found for my John Sadler 1871.

England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1915
about John Sadler
Name: John Sadler
Year of Registration: 1893
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Epping
County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 442



Charles Francis Bartlett 1893 Epping Essex
Alice Maud Looker 1893 Epping Essex
Alice Maude Looker 1893 Epping Essex
John Sadler 1893 Epping Essex
Alice Street 1893 Epping Essex

MillymollyAmanda

MillymollyAmanda Report 7 Jan 2011 14:59

1861?

Name: James Street
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's name: Thomas Street
Mother's name: Rachael Street
Gender: Male
Where born: Loughton, Essex, England

Civil Parish: Loughton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Epping
Sub-registration district: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 38
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Street 45
Rachael Street 47
Lucy Street 26
George Street 25
Jane Street 20
Thomas Street 16
William Street 14
Charles Street 12
James Street 9

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Christina

Christina Report 7 Jan 2011 15:05

Mel on Ancestry for 1901 you will find them under HEGGINS and STOUT all mistranscribed!!

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 15:06

Choccy that is my family with John Sadler.

Have just found another Alice Beatrice Street 1875 Loughton Essex, I wonder if it was her he married????

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 15:08

Oh thanks Christine you are a treasure. I will look now.

Hello Mandy thanks for popping in!! and thats the line I was following but now I am questioning it.

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 15:12

Found them at last and just look at the last name which must be Genty.!!!!!!

Gusty Stout!!!!! gosh did I laugh.

1901 England Census
about George Heggins
Name: George Heggins
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Alice Heggins
Gender: Male
Where born: Sx, Loughton

Civil Parish: Loughton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Loughton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Epping
Sub-registration district: Chigwell
ED, institution, or vessel: 11
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 109
Household Members: Name Age
George Heggins 31
Alice Heggins 26
Mary H Heggins 8
James H Heggins 6
Geo Wm Heggins 4
Robert Heggins 8 Months
James Stout 51
Louise Stout 17
Leonard Stout 15
Phoebe Stout 13
Gusty Stout 11

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1639; Folio: 34; Page: 20.




Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 15:14

Funny this as it says that Georges Wife Alice was born in Plaistow??????

Mel Fairy Godmother

Mel Fairy Godmother Report 7 Jan 2011 15:23

I wonder if they were just lodgers or some kind of rellies.

It is really a mystery this one.

Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Jan 2011 15:25



If that is definitely your family with John Sadler, you need to get their marriage certificate (if you don't already have it) to find out Alice's father's name and occupation.

It looks as though James Street born 1850 is probably not your line, if his daughter Alice married George Higgins.