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My dad lived there when he was a boy in the 1940s with his brother and widowed mother. They rented the place for a few years. He had quite a few stories of the place. And by coincidence, I know the family who lived there in the 1990s and they did a lot of research on the place.
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Its taken quite a while to be able to gather all the info but it is appreciated by me to everyone that has helped me in my endeavors.
Just wish it was as easy to get MY parents side of the family as its from Irish records and i have got as far back as 1840's but can't get any further back. Too many names the same in same area for the Greer family.
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Hi Everybody again.
RUTLANDBELLE: Its Jonathan George William Warwick Born 25/11/1946- and Katherine Eleanor Warwick Born 07/11/1948 and my wife Mary Elizabeth Godfrey (Previous marriage) born Hemsworth 10/03/1958.
In the census they misspelt the name Botton it should actually be Bolton. When i read the birth certificate for my father in law i could read it saying Bolton but it easily could have said Botton.
Also in census middle name for Gertrude is Isabelle not Isabella.
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I wonder if this is the Hall in 1911, says it has 12 rooms
1911 census transcription details for: The Hall Southrepps Norwich Norfolk
Address: The Hall Southrepps Norwich Norfolk County: Norfolk
Reg. District: Erpingham Sub District: Cromer
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TYLER, Jemima Head Widow F 73 1838 Farmer London Shoreditch
TYLER, William Son Single M 33 1878 Farmer London Hackney
TYLER, Lizzie Daughter Single F 36 1875 Housekeeper London Hackney
TYLER, James Son Single M 29 1882 Farmer London Hackney
WILLIAMSON, Ethel Servant Single F 16 1895 Servant Domestic Norfolk Suffield
WILLIAMSON, Gladys Servant Single F 14 1897 Servant Domestic Norfolk Suffield
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1911 census
Address: 23 Hosack Road Upper Tooting S W
County: London
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WARWICK, William Head Married M 27 1884 Metal Manufacturers Agent Northumberland No Shields
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WARWICK, Gertrude Isabella Wife Married
2 years F 26 1885 Northumberland Newcastle on Tyne
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WARWICK, Muriel Eleanor Daughter F 1 1910 London Upper Tooting
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WARWICK, George William Botton Son M 0 (2 MONTHS) 1911 London Upper Tooting (actually Bolton on the image)
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ROBSON, Eveline Patience Visitor Single F 18 1893 Northumberland Newcastle on Tyne
Gertrude Isabella maiden name-Wilkinson marr 1908
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being a nosey family historian I looked for the births and marriages you mentioned and the mmn of Jonathan and Katherine is Charnock and not Wilkinson.
The marriage of George Warwick is also to a Charnock
Name: George W B Warwick
Spouse Surname: Charnock
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1945
Registration district: Pontefract
Registration county (inferred): Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume Number: 9c
Page Number: 335
spouse: Betty Charnock
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Thanks Rutland Belle. Never thought of land registry
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Thanks everybody.
I will wait until i go up to Norfolk to search their records while i am on holiday in January.
Thanks Flick
I got that info as well.
Just spoke to the people in Norfolk and they are interested in any info i can give them including the family connection between John of Gaunt house which my wifes parent in and the Wilkinson Lemonade factory which was run by a brother of my wifes Grandmother Gertrude Wilkinson.
Hope everybody has a nice christmas and wonderful new year
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a long shot but waht about trying the Land Registry. They are on line and you search for free and pay for any records.
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As it's a listed building, one would assume that the listing authority would have info about it
Grade: II
Date Listed: 20 February 1952
TG 23 NE GIMINGHAM SOUTHREPPS ROAD
4/5 John of Gaunt's
20:2:52 House (formerly listed
as John of Gaunt's
Hall)
- II
House. Probably early C17. English bond brick, flint. Thatched roof.
Rectangular in plan. Facade of 2 storeys, 3 bays. Flint plinth. Central
doorway with reveals rendered in imitation of ashlar. Rendered blank panel
over. To either side of the doorway a 5-light brick mullioned and transomed
window with ovolo moulding, that to left renewed c1970. Diamond leaded
panes. Hood moulds over. 3 further mullioned and transomed windows to
the upper floor, the central one of 3 lights, the others of 4 lights, all
renewed. All windows having rendered reveals. Crowstepped gables. Gable
end stacks with bases for paired polygonal shafts. Right hand gable has
2 blocked attic lights with hood mould; gable above renewed. Rear has
single light opening beside stack, a 5-light renewed mullioned window above
a break in the flint plinth and 2 renewed 3-light mullioned windows. First
floor has 3 3-light renewed mullions. All openings have rendered reveals
and hood moulds. Interior. All renewed internal walling of c1970. Stairs
replaced. Right hand ground floor window and light to former stair in left
hand gable wall original. Inner face of external walls of flint with
diapering in one upper room. C19 roof.
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The ED descriptions for Gimingham do not mention the building.............
I've also trawled the census images for 1881 and 1901.......no reference to it on those, either
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My wifes mother was diagnosed with Huntingtons Chorea in 1966 so my wife had to cope with both parents being ill for most of her teenage years.
Her brother left them to it. .
i am the one who has got her interested in her family tree as she did not realise some of the things that i have found on the site.
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I have tried norfolk history centre and they said that i would have to visit them for any info on microfiche
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Not sure. Her Father died in 1973 when she was 15 and her mother in 1980. As far as my wife mentioned they sold it sometime between 1948 and 1958 when she was born.
She doesnt have any information about the house except that they lived there as owners.
Not sure if it is privately owned or national trust as it is a national heritage site.
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You ask 'who has owned it since'..............doesn't your wife know to whom her parents sold it - if it was theirs to sell?
As for how her parents came to be "in possession"...............presumably they purchased it.....unless they weren't actually owners, but tenants, or caretakers.
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Just found out some from google. Seemingly it was built by John of Gaunt and then given to his son Henry IV.
Following info i just got but still not info i want
GIMMINGHAM,
Called Gunningham in Domesday Book; the Earl Warren was then lord of it, Ratho, a freeman, being deprived of it; 2 carucates of land belonged to it, 12 villains, eleven borderers, 2 servi, 2 carucates in demean, and 4 among the tenants, with 12 acres of meadow, 2 mills, 2 runci, that is horses for carriage, &c. and eleven breeding mares in the woods, &c. 30 sheep, 30 goats, and 36 socmen had 48 acres of land, and 3 carucates and an half; there was also a church endowed with 28 acres. Knapton and Sustran were added to it, under which towns see the valor, and a farther account in Knapton. (fn. 1)
In the 14th of Edward I. John Earl Warren and Surry was lord, and claimed free warren, assise of bread and beer, view of frank pledge, a gallows, with wreck of sea, here, and in the towns belonging to the soc of this capital lordship, which extended into the following towns: Mondesley, Knapton, South Repps, North Repps, Sustrand, Trunch, Triminingham, all which used to pay suit and service to the sheriff's turn, for the King's hundred of North Erpingham, which the Earl had withdrawn, to the King's injury; valued at 16s. per ann.
John Earl Warren and Surry, in the 12th of Edward II. granted it to Thomas Earl of Lancaster, and his heirs, with many other lordships, reserving his own right therein for life; and on his death, in the 21st of Edward III. it came to Henry Duke of Lancaster. Of the Earls Warren, see in Castleacre. At this time, there was a capital messuage, a park, eleven score acres of arable land, and was held in free soccage, by the service of a bell. Henry Duke of Lancaster dying without issue male, his estate and great inheritance came to his two daughters and coheirs; Maud, the eldest, married William Duke of Zealand, &c. and had this lordship, in part, (assigned her) of that inheritance; she dying soon after her marriage, the whole came to John of Gaunt Duke of Lancaster, in right of the Lady Blanch, the other sister, by marriage; and from the said John, to his son, Henry IV. King of England, and continues at this time in the Crown, having its proper officers, a chancellor, &c. belonging to it, as part of the dutchy of Lancaster.
From: 'North Erpingham Hundred: Gimmingham', An Essay towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: volume 8, pp. 124-126. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=78421 Date accessed: 23 December 2010.
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I am mainly trying to find out how my wifes parents came to be in possession of such a national heritage site and who has owned it since
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I have tried but it only gives me who built it and the info i got from my wife. Nothing in between
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have you 'googled' for it, I'm sure that is only what anyone else would do
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Does anyone know the history of John of Gaunt House, Gimingham( Formerly registered as John of Gaunt Hall) a grade 11 listed building.
The bit i know is that it was supposedly built by John of Gaunt who was 4th son of King Edward 111.
My wifes parents Captain George William Bolton Warwick and Gertrude Wilkinson (her family owned Wilkinson Lemonade Factory, North Shields before it was blown up 1941) owned the house and refurbished it. My wifes Brother Jonathan was born there in 25/11/1946 as was her sister Katherine in 07/11/1948 although not my wife.
Any further info on the house before that time would be appreciated.
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