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1 Feb 2014 08:04 |
Edward was my grandfather. Would very much like to chat with possible relatives.
I am david Mardy
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fish4
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3 Dec 2010 19:42 |
JaneyCanuck,
They are looking very dodgy!. If they are the same, then Lesley has a surprise to come, not one that I would welcome too much. I will be calling for a marriage cert for Charles and Mary, since the expense of divorcing would have been out of reach financially for them. Twists and turns lovely!.
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3 Dec 2010 19:29 |
Looked at the other thread -- I get it now!
That's what I meant by "distinguish" -- figure out whether they're one and the same, or not.
They're looking very similar.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/surname_information/duffy/thread/1219795
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fish4
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3 Dec 2010 19:19 |
Hi Astra,
Thank you for your help, so appreciated. Have so much information from you girls, can now get on track. Two surnames, one family.. real spanner in the works!, but most is clear now... many, many thanks. I shall join ancestry, and no doubt use the first year learning how to use it!.
Once again a huge thank you to, ( in order of appearance);
ShirleyI,m getting the hang of it. Astra. JaneyCanuck.
Your help has given a great amount of new and very useful information. Absolutely brilliant!!!. Liz
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fish4
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3 Dec 2010 19:10 |
JaneyCanuck
"So much information you should have given to start with". Not sure exactly what your referring to here, but my information was very limited until today, when much new info came to light, i.e. I did not know that Edward and his siblings had used both surnames, had never seen the addresses given... etc, too much to detail, suffice to say, I have learnt far more in the last hour or so, about my grandfather, his parents and his brother, that I can tell you, all the above has not been wasting anyone's time, if, as it appears, time was given to help, then it certainly has helped me, and I am very grateful to those that gave it.and maybe it could help Lesley, the lady that asks for help here;
'Surname Information : edward duffy' A second thread was started because; Having information on Edward would and did give me information about the rest of his family, in particular his mother, and help me track others..
So no, I am not trying to distinguish between the two, in fact, it matters not to me if they are one and the same or have no relation to each other at all, it may matter to Lesley, as she may want to choose between two surnames if our Edwards are the same.. thank you for your time spent giving me deatils re; Ancestry, very helpful.
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Astra
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3 Dec 2010 18:18 |
Hi Elizabeth. The 1911 census record came from Find My Past. The other census details came from Ancestry. The births and marriages came from Free BMD and it looks as though the deaths Janey posted came from Ancestry too. Edward's military record is also on Ancestry.
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JaneyCanuck
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3 Dec 2010 18:16 |
Oh dear oh dear.
So much information you should have given to start with, to save people guessing and casting about for it. It's always fun when we prove to be right -- but it's so much less frustrating to know what we're looking for from the outset.
Most of the info here comes from Ancestry, I think (mine did). A majority seem to use that, some use FindMyPast, some use both. Either one would be a good buy, I'd say.
Question: there's another thread here about this same thing? Can you give us the link to it please? If that's the case, I wouldn't understand why a separate thread was started. -- Although I guess hers was really a different ED, and you were wanting to be able distinguish?
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Astra
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3 Dec 2010 18:14 |
Ah. Thanks Janey. I had to go and prepare dinner and just came back to follow it on and I see you have done it for me.
Nice one.
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fish4
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3 Dec 2010 18:08 |
JaneyCanuck, John looks to be the eldest. He, .like Edward used both surnames. Mary remarried?, very quickly, by 1881 census, Edward is 8 months old, head of household is Charles Duffy, wife Mary. Of course in those days of self reliance, a woman would have to find a husband/father/earner for her children.....or starve. :(
Could I ask you kind people to advise me; After christmas, I intend to join an ancestry site/org. Questions; Where are you all getting your information from?, as it is brilliant so far!. Thanks again you superb people!.
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fish4
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3 Dec 2010 17:52 |
JaneyCanuck, Thank you, looks like Edward died a couple of years before his brother Tom, and this may explain why another searcher has failed to find the death of her Edward duffy?. thank you for all your help girls!.
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fish4
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3 Dec 2010 17:42 |
Wow!!!!. The name Duffy comes frome from Edwards mothers second marriage to my g/grandfather Charles Duffy/Edwards stepfather. Mary/Edwards mother took three children into the marriage, Edward was the youngest. Edward and his siblings assumed the name Duffy. Astra, the military one,looks to be Edward also.Given his age, he should have served in WW1, like his brother Thomas. I know he had two daughters to Mary, the girls were institutionalised at some point, possibly in Prestwhich Asylum for the insane. John Mardy and Mary Renshaw were Edwards parents.
You are absolutely spot on with your last post, and it tells me how my grandfather met his future wife, Eliza Corrigan, who also lived 18? Lower Moss lane, Hulme....thank you!!. Tom was a carter. Yes you have the correct Edward, but I am surprised to see he has two sons?, They were never mentioned at all, by family...and here is proof that he had them. the confusion with Edward, is because he seemed to bounce between surnames. This thread was really started to help another member here, who was looking for an Edward Duffy, But it has helped me tremendously!, Thank you so very much!.
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JaneyCanuck
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3 Dec 2010 17:35 |
Name: Edward Mardy Death Registration Month/Year: 1962 Age at death (estimated): 81 = dob c1881 Registration district: Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 10e Page: 388
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JaneyCanuck
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3 Dec 2010 17:26 |
Looks like the birth of John Mardy:
Births Jun 1852 Mardy John Joseph Liverpool 8b 153
But I can't see any other record of him apart from that marriage!
I'd be wanting that Mardy-Renshaw marriage certificate to see what it says.
Possibly a pre-marriage birth to that marriage:
Births Dec 1873 Mardy John Salford 8d 59
-- the John Duffy aged 5 in the 1881?
Name: John Mardy Death Registration Month/Year: 1924 Age at death (estimated): 49 Registration district: Salford Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 153
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Astra
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3 Dec 2010 17:00 |
Thomas Duffy was his brother so is this your relative. It looks as though Mary may have re-married to a Duffy later on.
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Astra
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3 Dec 2010 16:57 |
No I think it is right. Here is the family in 1911
MARDY, Edward Head Married M 30 1881 Carter General Salford VIEW MARDY, Mary Alice Wife Married 9 years F 27 1884 Printers Feeder Manchester VIEW MARDY, Robert Son Single M 3 1908 Manchester VIEW MARDY, Edward Son Single M 2 1909 Manchester VIEW DUFFY, Thomas Brother Single M 22 1889 Carter General Manchester VIEW
Address: 25 Lr Moss Lane
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Astra
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3 Dec 2010 16:50 |
There is a military record for Edward Mardy born 1881 Salford?? Is this him or was his name definitely Duffy? From this record it seems he Married Mary Alice Worthington in 1902 and had children Robert, Edward, Charles Ellis and Leah? Is this a different person?
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Astra
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3 Dec 2010 16:31 |
Is this the marriage you are referring to? If these were the parents where does the name Duffy come from?
Marriages Sep 1875 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ALLAN Jane Manchester 8d 719 >>MARDY John Manchester 8d 719 >>RENSHAW Mary Manchester 8d 719 Scanlan Michael Manchester 8d 719
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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3 Dec 2010 16:28 |
1901 census Name: Edward Duffy Age: 20 Estimated birth year: abt 1881 Relation: Boarder Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address:57 Gillon street
Occupation:carter. carriers
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Manchester Sub-registration district: Central ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age William Hurst 27 Mary T Hurst 24 Edward Hurst 2 Jesse Hurst 6 Edward Duffy 20
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3746; Folio: 118; Page: 18
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Astra
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3 Dec 2010 16:27 |
When and who did he marry and at what point did he leave her?
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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3 Dec 2010 16:26 |
1881 census ? Name: Edward Duffy Relation: Son Father's name: Charles Duffy Mother's name: Mary Duffy Gender: Male Where born: Salford, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 4 Albert Place Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Salford Sub-registration district: Greengate ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Charles Duffy 25 occ labourer Mary Duffy 24 John Duffy 5 Mary Ann Duffy 3 Edward Duffy 8months
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 3959; Folio: 78; Page: 36; GSU roll: 1341945.
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