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I am trying to locate the forename of a Pape who married Florence Rain in Sunderland in March 1914, and who had at least one child (Gordon Brodie Pape b 1917). Can anyone help??

Kind regards

Carol

Marriages Mar 1914 (>99%)
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Pape Clarence B M Rain Sunderland 10a 1027
Rain Florence Pape Sunderland 10a 1027


easy to find here

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Carol,

Search here:

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Rose

Children:

Births Dec 1914
Pape John B Rain Sunderland 10a 1334

Births Dec 1915
PAPE George C RAIN Sunderland 10a 1063

Births Dec 1917
Pape Gordon Rain Sunderland 10a 1035

Rose

You can find more births by

selecting births

surname pape

mothers name/spouse rain

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Think he was known as Brodie as I can't find a Clarence:

1901 England Census
about Brodie Pape
Name: Brodie Pape
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Geo Pape
Gender: Male
Where born: Sunderland, Durham, England
Civil parish: Sunderland
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: Sunderland
Sub-registration district: North Bishopwearmouth
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 221
Household Members: Name Age
Geo Pape 53
John Pape 22
Eleanor Pape 19
Leviaina Pape 16
Maggie Pape 14
Robt Pape 11
Brodie Pape 8


Rose

1911 census - household transcription
Person: PAPE, Clerance Brodie M
Address: 100 Chester Road Sunderland

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PAPE, Gerorge Head Married M 64 1847 Retired Coal Merchant Durham South Shields VIEW
PAPE, Margaret B Wife Married
42 years F 60 1851 Durham South Shields VIEW

PAPE, John George Son Single M 32 1879 Cart Man Durham Sunderland VIEW
PAPE, Lenvinie Doris Daughter Single F 26 1885 Durham Sunderland VIEW
PAPE, Robert James Son Single M 21 1890 Joiner House Durham Sunderland VIEW
PAPE, Clerance Brodie M Son Single M 18 1893 Fitter M Engine Durham Sunderland VIEW

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Thank you all for your help - will follow up these leads. Many thanks for getting me started again!

Carol x

I have made more progress in tracing the Pape line further back. I am stuck with one thing and wold be grateful for advice / help. I have located an Eleanor Pape (whose dob varies in the census docs but seems to be approx 1807), with four children (John Pape b 1836, James Pape b 1839, Jane Pape b 1842, and George Pape b 1848). I am assuming Pape to be her married name but cannot locate any reference to her husband in any census docs, and I have not yet been able to locate marriage info. Her husband was a mariner, and died between the 1851 - 1861 censuses. Can anyone help?

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Groom's Name: John Pape
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Eleanor Stonehouse
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 06 Nov 1834
Marriage Place: Tynemouth, Northumberland, England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M00019-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 1068674
Reference Number:
Collection: England Marriages, 1538–1973

Also a Mary here:

1841 England Census
about Eleanor Pape
Name: Eleanor Pape
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1811
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham, England

Civil parish: Jarrow
Hundred: Chester (East Division)
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Registration district: South Shields
Sub-registration district: Westoe
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Eleanor Pape 30
Mary Pape 12
John Pape 6
James Pape 3

Rose

You will need to order one of the children's birth certs to get his name, although the marriage above does seem the correct one:

Births Dec 1838
Pape James Stonehouse South Shields 24 159

Births Sep 1841
Pape Jane Knight S.Shields 24 203

Births Sep 1847
Pape George Shields S 24 227

Rose

Hi my name is Michael Pape and am related to all the Papes you are researching,Cla ance (Brodie) was best man at my grandfathers marriage in 1918 who was Joseph Taylor Pape who was his brother hope this might be of help ,
Mike.

Welcome to Genes Reunited, Michael.

This is an old thread, so Carol is unlikely to still be checking it.

You could click on her name and try to send her a message. If she still has the same email address she will be notified by Genes of your message.

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