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ROBERT TAIT DAUBENEY 1865 - update 02 Nov 2015

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Jooleh

Jooleh Report 11 Nov 2010 00:18

There is Milton Barracks nearby - it's listed separately under the enumeration district of Gravesend. 17 pages of names with difficult writing to read! I think there's an easier way of pulling up the transcriptions but I can't remember now and I've run out of time. Will look again tomorrow unless someone else has already done it......................

Julie

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 11 Nov 2010 00:11

The usual mistranscription is "u" when it's really an "n". Witness all my Mouck-s. The "n" was written much like a "u", in fact indistinguishably, often.

There isn't a Robert Daub* or Danb* birth to match in any case.

And there isn't a marriage that looks likely for Daub* or Danb* -- just this possible:

Marriages Dec 1870
ASTLE Emma Derby 7b 776
BASSENDINE Isabella Derby 7b 776
DALBY John Derby 7b 776
DAUBNEY Brion Derby 7b 776

if a remarriage perhaps.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 10 Nov 2010 23:52

It certainly looks like Daubeny on image Jools,doesnt it?
Def DAU at the start anyway
If Mother died young then he may not have known her name for sure ,but just thought it was Alice?
It looks good with both boys on it anyway.
More looking into needed,but certainly a contender...

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 10 Nov 2010 23:40

Hi all
I'll just throw this one in the pot..................

Daubeney/Daubeny seems to be frequently mistranscribed as Danbury. This one looks like 'Daubeny' on the image and has mother as Isabella (not Alice) but she is down as married and occupation is given as soldier's wife. She and children all born as per Robert's birthplace:


1871 England Census
Name: Robert Danbury
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Relation: Son
Mother's name: Isabella R Danbury

Where born: Bainsbury, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Milton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Kent
Country: England
Registration district: Gravesend
Sub-registration district: Gravesend
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Household schedule number: 73

Isabella R Danbury 35
Frederick Danbury 7
Robert Danbury 5
Ernest Danbury 3

Julie

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 9 Nov 2010 23:23

Ooh my internet just went funny.
Got it back now.
so birthplace is a little fuzzy-Middlesex or Essex.
Parents names are fuzzy
Date of birth a little fuzzy.
Hmmm.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Nov 2010 23:05

And that Robert Tait is in the 1881

Name: Robert Tait
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Relation: Son
Father's name: Archibald Tait
Mother's name: Susanah J. Tait
Where born: St Marylebone
Civil Parish: Willesden


We never even got that program on TV until 2 years ago.

Me, I'm just a search-engine fool, and I was wandering the net looking for those Moncks o' mine back before this millennium ...

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 9 Nov 2010 22:58

Nope,started looking into mine well before that prog..
Still have a prob being 100% on one Ggrandfather,but 99% will do me

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 9 Nov 2010 22:55

Thanks again girls for looking at this, the ideas you're coming up with match the ones I've had on and off for a few years now.

I don't think anyone in the family had ever looked into his past - it's probably since certain TV programs started that we've started to ask these questions.

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 9 Nov 2010 22:51

Name: Robert Tait
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1864
Baptism Date: 29 May 1864
Father's name: Archibald Tait
Mother's name: Susanna Tait
Parish or Poor Law Union: St Marylebone
Borough: Westminster

Plus at least 5 other children born to them on Baptisms,but no Ernest.

Searched for Tait as well I did.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 9 Nov 2010 22:49

I definitely considered that possibility early on -- and yet failed to find that particular Robert Tait somehow!

The other obvious possibility is that the mother was Daubeney and the real father was Tait (a common reason for a surname as a middle name) (or vice versa), and then the mother married someone else altogether and the child is hiding in the next census under the stepfather's surname ... etc etc.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 9 Nov 2010 22:39

maybe?

Births Jun 1864 (>99%)
TAIT Robert Marylebone 1a 474

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 9 Nov 2010 22:35

I have been wondering if perhaps his background was a little more complicated.
I have seen examples of children annexing stepfathers name to their original name so maybe he was born Robert Tait and Daubeney added later?

Renes

Renes Report 9 Nov 2010 17:23

thanks Fans

FannyByGaslight

FannyByGaslight Report 9 Nov 2010 17:04

Renes.
That would make Alice 10/11 when Robert was born?

Renes

Renes Report 9 Nov 2010 07:49


MC - this maybe worth a look - it is submitted but could give some pointers 

This is an extract from 
The Hawker Family Tree - they have details on Jane Coldricks parentage 

Robert Tait DAUBENEY  was born in 1865. He died in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Nbl, Eng. He married Jane COLDRICK on 19 Jun 1889 in Colchester, Ess, Eng.

Jane COLDRICK was born on 25 May 1868 in Newent, Gls, Eng. She died in Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Nbl, Eng. She married Robert Tait DAUBENEY on 19 Jun 1889 in Colchester, Ess, Eng.

They had the following children:

 M i Robert Tait DAUBENEY.

He had the following children:

 M i Robert Tait DAUBENEY was born in 1865.
 M ii Ernest DAUBENEY.

Edit :::
Sorry but do not understand the last two entries - they appear to replicate Robert Tait Daubeney 

Renes

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Nov 2010 21:55

Y'know what we do have a few of in Essex, I've finally got around to looking into, is Dobney-s. Plain old grey Dobbin Dobney-s.

A non-native bird here, but an interesting occupation, in 1871:

Name: John Dobney
Age: 23
Estimated birth year: abt 1848
Relation: Soldier
Where born: Quinborough, Leicestershire, England

Civil Parish: Little Warley
Town: Little Warley
County/Island: Essex
Registration district: Billericay
Sub-registration district: Brentwood
ED, institution, or vessel: Depot Foot Guards Barracks

only a thin smattering of BMDs in Essex, though, none at the right time / with the right names.

I'd have offered you a Drucilla Dobney mother and daughter in Stratford, but I believe that name is actually Debney. Or something.

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Nov 2010 21:33

Rara avis | Define Rara avis at Dictionary.com
"strange bird,"
from rara, fem. of rarus "rare" + avis "bird."
Latin pl. is raræ aves

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 8 Nov 2010 21:21

One more eastender Daubney - in 1901:

Name: William Daubney
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Son-in-Law
> Where born: Mile End, London, England

Civil Parish: Barking
County/Island: Essex

Walter Nash 52
Ellen Nash 48
Rosina Nicholls 28 (daughter)
Annie Daubney 21 (daughter)
Charles Nicholls 30 (son-in-law)
William Daubney 25 (son-in-law)
Hilda Nicholls 11 Months
Florence Daubney 2
James Johnson 40 - boarders on down
Arthur Fennell 22
William Drury 20
Walter Dodd 17

A real one:

Births Mar 1876
Daubney William Avis Mile End Old Town 1c 562

1881, no find; 1891:

Name: William Daubney
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Stepney, London, England

Civil Parish: Whitechapel

George Cecil 25
Caroline Cecil 21
George Cecil 3
Caroline A Cecil 2
Alfred E Cecil 10/12
William Daubney 15

Marriages Jun 1897
Daubney William Avis Billericay 4a 694
Laurie Ethel Marian Billericay 4a 694
Nash Annie Louisa Billericay 4a 694


It could be interesting to check out the particulars on his birth and marriage certificates, because a Daub*ney in the east end is ... and you're going to have to prepare yourself, and forgive me ... a




















rara Avis








indeed.


Stop me, I'm going to kill myself laughing here.

Howdaya like that for white space?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 8 Nov 2010 20:57

Irene - yes, that's a lady who made contact with me and it was she who told me Ernest was Robert's brother.

Her and I are in touch from time to time and she's still got no further, either.

Got to go for a while ... back later.

Renes

Renes Report 8 Nov 2010 20:50

MC
I found this on The Newham Family History site
It appears he was a milkman



I am trying to trace the Daubeney family and wonder if anyone has any information about them
Ernest Albert Daubeney b approx 1868 - a milkman who in the 1881 census appears to be in the West Ham Union Workhouse. I have been unable to trace his birth or find him in the 1871 or 1891 census
Elizabeth Daubeney b 24/3/1868 - formerly Mansfield and born in Suffolk
They married in 1891 (after the census) and had 7 children
Eleanor Maud Daubeney 17/6/1892
Lucy Florence Daubeney 17/1/1896 - died age 37 of TB
Ethel Irene Daubeney 1/12/1897 - 30/11/1898
Lily Winifred Daubeney 15/1/1900
Victor Robert 29/11/1901
Albert Edward 20/11/1907- 20/12/1912 - died of Diphtheria in Plaistow Fever Hospital
Rita Madeline 4/11/1911
They lived at 18 Glenparke Road and moved to 18 Chaucer Road
I