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Now 1851 please

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Jan 2014 12:10

Frances is unlikely to see your message........contact her by clicking on her name

PeeEmm

PeeEmm Report 6 Jan 2014 12:07

Hello, just found these 'post' above, I do appreciate that this was back in 2010, but when researching what's a couple of years here or there.

This is the same TWEDDELL family that I have in my tree.
My Grandmother was born a Johnson and Married THOMAS HARDY TWEDDELL.
He was born 1878/1879 and when I checked back he had a JAMES CASTLE TWEDDELL as one of his ancestors.

Regards

Peter Monaghan c1940 :-)

PeeEmm

PeeEmm Report 6 Jan 2014 12:06

Hello, just found these 'post' above, I do appreciate that this was back in 2010, but when researching what's a couple of years here or there.

This is the same TWEDDELL family that I have in my tree.
My Grandmother was born a Johnson and Married THOMAS HARDY TWEDDELL.
He was born 1878/1879 and when I checked back he had a JAMES CASTLE TWEDDELL as one of his ancestors.

Regards

Peter Monaghan c1940 :-)

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 12:52

You are absolutely right Julia, I got too excited when I found her in the same batch as Elizabeth Ann and didn't check the parents, sorry for that but Elizabeth Ann does have the right parents

Yes Julia, I think you are right about her death. I missed that as well! I seem to be not too clever keeping up with these spellings.Thank you for giving me the benefit of your better eyesight, it has removed most of the 'mysteries'.

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 6 Apr 2010 12:41



Births Dec 1842

Tweddle Elizabeth Ann Darlington 24 46

Could this be her death????

Deaths Dec 1850

TWEDDALL Elizabeth Darlington 24 39

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 6 Apr 2010 12:28

The Mary Ann you refer to seems to have a different mother!

Mary Ann Tweddle

Christening: 14 JUL 1837 St Cuthbert, Darlington, Durham, England

Father: John Tweddle
Mother: Mary

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 11:51

Hi Julia, this constant change of name spelling plus mistranscription is getting very confusing!
I cannot find any deaths for the girls so could you possibly look for them seperately in the 1851 please - it does seem strange that there are 2 John Castle Tweddle and Ann in Darlington at the same time?

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 6 Apr 2010 11:40

On the 1841, but all listed separatley on the same page

John Swedble abt 1808 Durham, England Darlington, Durham
Ann Swedble abt 1816 Durham, England Darlington,
John Swedble abt 1834 Durham, England Darlington, Durham
James Swedble abt 1838 Durham, England Darlington, Durham
Robinson Swedble abt 1840 Durham, England Darlington, Durham

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 11:10

Thank you Julia. There seem to be two parallel families or both the girls have died - I must go and check that

♥Julia♥

♥Julia♥ Report 6 Apr 2010 10:58

1851 England Census
about John Castle Tweedell
Name: John Castle Tweedell
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1835
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Male
Where born: Darlington, Durham, England

Civil parish: Middlesbrough
Town: Middlesbrough
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Stockton
Sub-registration district: Yarm
ED, institution, or vessel: 20a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
John Tweedell 43
Ann Tweedell 39
John Castle Tweedell 16
Robinson Tweedell 11
Henry A Wood 20 - Cook
Mary A Hudson 15 - Housemaid

Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 2383; Folio: 191; Page: 2; GSU roll: 87061

cannot read the address, sorry

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 10:41

The children should all be still at home in 1851 so if anybody can see them in census this would be a great help please

Frances

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 10:12

Now I have found

Elizabeth Ann Tweddell
Christening: 11 DEC 1842 St Cuthbert, Darlington, Durham
Father: John Castle Tweddell
Mother: Ann
MARY ANN 14 JUL 1837

I believe I have found previous instances where only the girls appear to be christened so maybe these are the same John and Ann parents?

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 09:48

O.K. Spelt with the double 'L'
Births Mar 1838
TWEDDELL James Darlington
24 39

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 09:42

Thanks Jonesey, as always you are anticipating my questions faster than I can post! The middle name of Castle seems to pop up from time to time but there is no consistent use to be absolutely sure one is following the correct person e.g.

JOHN TWEDDLE
Christening: 04 OCT 1807 Stokesley, Yorkshire
Father: CASTLE TWEDDLE
THOMAS 04 FEB 1810, JAMES CASTLE 08 DEC 1811

JOHN CASTLE TWEDDLE Marriage: 25 MAR 1804 Stokesley, Yorkshire
Spouse: ELIZ. BURNWILL

I think ancestors did this to cause me problems........

1871
Tweddle John Cassel 1806 Stockton Stockton, Yarm

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 09:28

Thank you Jonesey, that is very interesting. The suggested birth for James is
Births Sep 1837
Tweddle James Castle Northallerton
24 291

As the 1881 gives his father can you see a census that gives them together please.
The 1851 for James could be
Tweddle James 1838 Northallerton Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, St Andrew

or have I been given dodgy info?

Frances

Frances Report 6 Apr 2010 09:06

Currently my knowledge is :-

1881 Census
Esther M. TUEDDELL
Mother (Head) W Female 37 Middlesbro, York, England
Jane A. TUEDDELL
Daur U Female 15 Middlesbro, York, England
Esther M. TUEDDELL
Daur Female 7 Middlesbro, York, England Scholar
James C. TUEDDELL
Son Male 4 Middlesbro, York, England Scholar
Thomas H. TUEDDELL
Son Male 2 Middlesbro, York, England
John B. TUEDDELL
Son Male 1 Middlesbro, York, England
John C. TUEDDELL
Father In Law W Male 72 Stokesley No Occupation
Dwelling: 30 West Street, Middlesbrough, Yorkshire

and I believe the father is
Deaths Sep 1879
TWEDDELL James 42 Middlesbro'
9d 311

Does the 1871 prove me right please.

Many thanks,
Frances