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Births Sep 1860 (>99%)
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SULING Mary Ann St Geo East 1c 410

(above was found on another 'Thread' also, will add here, as confusion reigned!)

Chris :)

edits (not sure if Bernard has above Cert.?)


Baptism
Day:25
Month:9
Year:1842
Forename:Aylmer
Othernames:William
Surname:Suling
Fathers forenames:Henry Frederick
Fathers occupation:Sugar Refiner
Mothers forenames:Sarah
Birth date:08 October 1838
Address:Greenfield Street
Location of church:Stepney
Parish:Christ Church
Church address:Jamaica Street
Entry No:99
Source Ref:X081/045
Record source:Docklands Ancestors

Day:25
Month:9
Year:1842
Forename:Henry
Othernames:Christian
Surname:Suling
Fathers forenames:Henry Frederick
Fathers occupation:Sugar Refiner
Mothers forenames:Sarah
Birth date:03 November 1834
Address:Upper Cornwall Street
Location of church:Stepney
Parish:Christ Church
Church address:Jamaica Street

Day:25
Month:9
Year:1842
Forename:Henry
Othernames:Frederick
Surname:Suling
Fathers forenames:Henry Frederick
Fathers occupation:Sugar Refiner
Mothers forenames:Sarah
Birth date:06 May 1833
Address:Great St Helens
Location of church:Stepney
Parish:Christ Church
Church address:Jamaica Street


http://www.mawer.clara.net/sugarssoy.html

(from above useful link,Sugar Refiners & Sugarbakers Database)

SULING Yurkuck of Hanover, Amt Hoya (age 56) (3 Batty Gdns) London 1851 1851 census HO107 /1547 /143


1851
SULING, Fuderick Head Married M 56 1795 Sugar Refiner
Hannover Ant Hoyd
SULING, Sarah Wife Married F 43 1808
Fordham, Essex
SULING, Christian Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Cheesemonger
St George, Middlesex
SULING, Harm Son Unmarried M 6 1845 Scholar
St George, Middlesex
Piece: 1547
Folio: 143
Page: 32
Registration District: Saint George in the East
Civil Parish: Saint George in the East
Municipal Borough: The Tower Hamlets
Address: 3, Batty Gardens, Saint George In The East, The Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

1861
GOOD, Edward Head Widower M 64 1797 Groom
Bury, Suffolk
SULING, Sarah Servant Widow F 74 1787 House Keeper
Colchester, Essex
Piece: 1099
Folio: 32
Page: 11
Registration District: Colchester
Civil Parish: Lexden
Municipal Borough: Colchester
Address: Heath Road, Lexden, Colchester
County: Essex


Deaths Sep 1860 (>99%)
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Suling Henry Frederick St Geo East 1c 271

Hi Bernard

Please delete the other two threads you have posted regarding Helmer and just keep to this one.

Thankyou.

:-)

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1331197

pm received from Bernard:


From Bernard SORRY 1873!!!!!!!

OOOps - he has edited his first post acordingly!!

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Dea x

Is this Henry Christian in 1851?


Name Christian Suling
Age 16
Estimated Year of Birth 1835
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Occupation Cheesemonger
Address 3 Batty Gardens
District St George In The East, St George In The East
Parish
Administrative County London
Birth Place St George
Birth County Middlesex


If you go to "Search Records" and select 1851 there are several "Suling's" that might be your family

According to tree on Ancestry Helmer William Seeling born 8/10/1838married again to Mary Ann Neal in 1879 she was born 1845 in warwick and died Wanganui in 1915 they had 9 kids prior to that she was married to Mark Collinson in 1866 and had 6 kids.

Helmer died 31/8/1913in Wanganui.

Maryb

Sorry Bernard I think you already know the above.

He also had sister Sarah Ann Suling born 1831 married Henry Hoggett in 1859.

Henry Frederick - more details on marriage:

Henry Frederick Suling
Age: Full Age
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Spouse Name: Sarah Ann Clements
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 28 Aug 1859
Parish: Saint Anne, Limehouse
County: Middlesex
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Father Name: Henry Frederick Suling
Spouse Father Name: George Clements

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Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint Anne, Limehouse, Register of marriages, P93/ANN, Item 035

Henry Frederick Suling:

Marriages Sep 1859 (>99%)
Clements Sarah Ann Stepney 1c 923 Scan available - click to view
Frederick Henry Stepney 1c 923 Scan available - click to view
Lucas William Stepney 1c 923 Scan available - click to view
Suling Henry Frederick Stepney 1c 923 Scan available - click to view
Williams Louisa Sophia Stepney 1c 923 Scan available - click to view

1861 for ref:

Eliza Suling
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1842
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: St George, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: St George in The East
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

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Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

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Registration district: St George In The East
Sub-registration district: St Paul
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 143
Household Members:
Name Age
William Suling 22
Eliza Suling 19
Mary Ann Suling 9 Mo

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Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 279; Folio: 54; Page: 24; GSU roll: 542605.

and who is Henry Christian?

Are your dates correct - Did he move to New Zealand in 1973 ??

Dea x

After years of search I have found my long lost GGF who moved to New Zealand on the Woodlark in 1873.Since then he has been known as Helmer Wiliam Seeling.I have found that he was, according to 1861 census Aylmer[!] William Suling,born 1838 at Mile End Old Town.He had a wife.Eliza,who was 19 and a child Mary Ann,9 months.I can't find any info about Eliza!I dont know what happened to the marriage but he was on his way to NZ when MA was 12.I would like to know any info about Eliza and his parents,Henry Frederick and Sarah Ann.Her maiden name and their parents etc.I know a bit about his brother Henry Frederick but nothing about Henry Christian.Can anyone help?