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William EDWARDS born in Hereford@ 1856

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Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Aug 2009 09:28

I am trying to research my EDWARDS side of the family that reside in Cwmbran, Monmouthshire during the beginning of 20th Century. I believe that the head of the household William as stated in 1901/1891 census was born in Hereford. If anybody can advise where i should take my research from here i would much appreciate it. I have managed to find a possible marriage in monmouth jun1876. As for births/deaths further census searches i am stuck. All help much appreciated in advance
Rachel

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Aug 2009 09:50

Stephen, what do you have that you are certain of so far? If you are able to copy and paste census details for 1891, say, that would help us focus on the family. Have any of the children got distinctive names? A birth cert might be the key to the marriage as you will have mother's maiden name.

I sympathise with your search. I too have ancestors who moved from Hereford to Monmouthshire, and there only seem to be about 4 surnames around those parts!!.

Jan

Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Aug 2009 10:15

Hello Janet does this help?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.asp?wci=thread&tk=1172219

From here i have found them in 1891 census and identified a number of the childrens births. This is all i have i am afraid. Looking for Williams ancestors now? Just not sure where to look and what for as there really are so many. I am not even sure that the marriarge that i have found is them!

brummiejan

brummiejan Report 22 Aug 2009 10:30

Thought I'd see if children's births registered in Newport, which from these seems a good chance.

Probably Polly's birth:

Births Jun 1895 (>99%)
Edwards Polly Newport, M. 11a 256

And Charles:

Births Jun 1884 (>99%)
Edwards Charles Newport M 11a 234

Lilian:

Births Dec 1896 (>99%)
Edwards Lilian May Newport, M. 11a 257

Harriet?

Births Mar 1891 (>99%)
Edwards Harriet Matilda Newport M 11a 259

A little chancy, but with luck getting one of these certs will confirm Sarah's name and you can hopefully then obtain marriage cert.

Phew!

Jan

Stephen

Stephen Report 25 Oct 2009 20:58

Following on ....some time later!!!!

I have spoken to my mums cousin who i have never met before, he recalls being related to the Baird family.( HIs fathers cousins. They lived opposite each other i think.)

I have found the connection - the marriage of Pheobe Edwards to a Robert w Baird in 1902 Pontypool( correct location, same sort of dates).

Pheobe Edwards' Mother is Emma Edwards married to Charles Edwards-Pheobes father. Emma later married John Baird(1895)

I feel that perhaps Charles Edwards(1850 above born in wiltshire) could possibly be the brother of William Edwards(1856 born in hereford), my ggrandfather?

I have searched the census on this site back to front hoping to find a connection, to no avail. Was wondering if anybody could assist? i appreciate that other GR members have alternative search facilities, any help will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks in advance
Rachel

Stephen

Stephen Report 1 Apr 2016 08:30

It's been some time, but I am now revisiting my family tree. If anybody could help or advise me on my query above it would be much appreciated.

Stephen

Stephen Report 1 Apr 2016 08:30

It's been some time, but I am now revisiting my family tree. If anybody could help or advise me on my query above it would be much appreciated.

malyon

malyon Report 1 Apr 2016 11:48


William Edwards
England and Wales Census, 1871
Name William Edwards
Event Type Census
Event Date 1871
Event Place Llantarnum, Monmouthshire, Wales
Enumeration District 16
Gender Male
Age 14
Occupation Working In Factory
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1857
Birthplace Aberdar, Herefordshire
Entry Number 6
Affiliate Image Identifier GBC/1871/5351/0226
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Alfred Thomson Head M 38 Wiltshire
Mary Thomson Wife F 48 Aberdar, Herefordshire
Julia Edwards Daughter F 20 Rowston, Herefordshire
Ester Edwards Daughter F 17 Aberdar, Herefordshire
William Edwards Son M 14 Aberdar, Herefordshire
Jane Thomson Daughter F 7 Aberdar, Herefordshire

malyon

malyon Report 1 Apr 2016 11:54

looks like the family above mother mary must have married alfred thomson or they may not have married

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William Edwards
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name William Edwards
County Herefordshire
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place Ewyas Harold, Herefordshire, Wales
Ecclesiastical Parish Hereford
Registration District Hereford
Residence Note Elm Green
Gender Male
Age 4
Relationship to Head of Household Son
Birth Year (Estimated) 1857
Birthplace Hereford Ewyas Harold,
Page Number 4
Registration Number RG09
Piece/Folio 1823 / 24
Affiliate Record Type Household
HOUSEHOLD

ROLE

GENDER

AGE

BIRTHPLACE

Mary Edwards Head F 36 Hereford Ewyas Harold,
Julia Edwards Daughter F 9 Hereford Bolstone,
Esther Edwards Daughter F 7 Hereford Abbey Dore,
William Edwards Son M 4 Hereford Ewyas Harold,

malyon

malyon Report 1 Apr 2016 12:05

yes it is but the census i posted say's where they are born your census does not say

PatinCyprus

PatinCyprus Report 1 Apr 2016 12:20

Sarah Ann is from Brierley Hill mistranscribed by the look of it in 1911. It's now West Midlands but was Staffordshire and part of the Black Country. The area is well known for the foundries and William was a puddler. Could he have gone to the area to work and met Sarah Ann?
I have found a marriage that is possibly the couple. It is registered in Dudley. In the area some are registered in Stourbridge others Dudley, you have to check both as I've found. My paternal line is Dudley/Kingswinford and Brierley Hill.

William is a common name so is Edwards, Sarah Ann very common. Buy a birth cert one of their children to confirm the mother's maiden name but don't restrict where you look for the marriage.

William Edwards
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Dudley
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6c
Page: 67
Records on Page:
Name
Sarah Jane Clemson
-----------------------------William Edwards
Howard Leese
-----------------------------Sarah Ann Sims

malyon

malyon Report 1 Apr 2016 12:24


James Edwards
England Births and Christenings
Name James Edwards
Gender Male
Christening Date 29 Mar 1825
Christening Place ABBEY DORE, HEREFORD, ENGLAND
Mother's Name Frances Edwards

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 1 Apr 2016 13:43

I think this is more likely to be William's marriage to Sarah Ann as on 1911 (posted below for ref) he states married 28 years.

Marriages Dec 1883 (>99%)
Davies David James Newport, M. 11a 348
EDWARDS William Newport, M. 11a 348
James Maria Newport,M. 11a 348
SMITH Sarah Ann Newport, M. 11a 348

Name: William Edwards
Age in 1911: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Relation to Head: Head
Birth Place: Abbeydore, Hereford, England
Civil Parish: Llanvihangel Llantarnam
Street address: 230 Top Of Coronation Road Cwmbran Nr Newport Mon
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 28
Estimated Marriage Year: 1883
Occupation: Labourer
Registration district: Newport
Registration District Number: 587
Sub-registration district: Llantarnam

Household Members:
Name Age
William Edwards 54
Sarah Ann Edwards 52
William Edwards 22
Evelyn Edwards 18
Charlie Edwards 18
Lilly Edwards 14
George Edwards 11
James Edwards 9
Ivy Edwards 4/12

lancashireAnn

lancashireAnn Report 1 Apr 2016 13:47

and 1901 & 1891 to help make sense of previous posts as I can't make that link to another thread work (both in Llantarnam

Name Age
William Edwards 44
Sarah A Edwards 42
William Edwards 12
Harriet Edwards 10
Charles Edwards 8
Polly Edwards 5
Lillie Edwards 4
George Edwards 1

William Edwards 32
Sarah Ann Edwards 30
Wm Edwards 2
Alice Maud Edwards 7
Harriet Matilda Edwards 3/12

Stephen

Stephen Report 3 Apr 2016 08:34

Thank you x Lillie is my great grandmother so shall order her b cert. Thank you again xx