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dasyl

dasyl Report 18 Aug 2009 11:27

i am trying to find the family of George Hibbard possible born arround 1885,married to Mary and lived in london east,he was a glass blower.thanks

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Aug 2009 11:34

Any other info?
Parents names or siblings?
When did he marry and did he have any children?

Could this be his marriage?
Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Barker Elizabeth Whitechapel 1c 447
Caldon Jeremiah Whitechapel 1c 447
Hibbard George W Whitechapel 1c 447
HUMPHREYS Mary A Whitechapel 1c 447

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Aug 2009 11:38

Between 1881 and 1889 I would only find one George W. Hibbard:-

Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
Hibbard George William Dartford 2a 463

could this be him?

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Aug 2009 11:40

However,
I did the following search in 1911 census:-
First names GEORGE
Last names HIBBARD
Birth Year 1884
Birth Year +/- 3 years
Occupation GLASS BLOWER

and only one came up:-

HOUSEHOLD HIBBARD GEORGE M 1886 25 Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding

but it's not London?

the following are all, or some of them, are noted as living in the same household, but you would have to pay to view to make sure which!
HOUSEHOLD HIBBARD ARTHUR THOMAS M 1856 55 Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD HIBBARD CHARLES M 1889 22 Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD HIBBARD DOROTHY F 1895 16 Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD HIBBARD ELSIE F 1893 18 Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD HIBBARD JANE F 1851 60 Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD HIBBARD MARY F 1854 57 Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding
HOUSEHOLD HIBBARD ROBERT M 1893 18 Barnsley Yorkshire West Riding

are any of these names familiar?

Catherine

Catherine Report 18 Aug 2009 11:48

Is any of this worth following up?

dasyl

dasyl Report 18 Aug 2009 11:55

they had daughters elizabeth rose lilly agatha,margaret dorothy sons harry freddy george.we think they were born in hackney e.london,dont know the marriage.

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Aug 2009 13:18

Here are 3 of the childrens births
George Willam 1909 Dec Q Hackney 1b 493
Elizabeth (twin) 1909 Dec Q Hackney 1b493
Frederick 1911 Jun Q Hackney 1b 468

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Aug 2009 13:28

And the rest
Rose Hibbard 1920 Dec Q Hackney 1b 901 (MMS Barker)
Lilly 1917 Dec Q Hackney 1b 609 (MMS Barker)
Margaret 1923 Mar Q Hackney 1b 890 (MMS Barker)

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Aug 2009 13:30

So it looks as if the correct bride at the 1911 marriage was Elizabeth Barker? Maybe Mary was her middle name?

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Aug 2009 13:42

And there is a WW1 service record for George William Hibbard of 31 Homfrey St Hackney (Occupation Glass blower) in Reserve Company No 209827 -his next of kin is wife ELIZABETH

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Aug 2009 14:06

Believe it or not,I think this is the family in 1911:


HOUSEHOLD EBERT ELIZABETH F 1886 25 Hackney London
HOUSEHOLD EBERT ELIZABETH F 1910 1 Hackney London

HOUSEHOLD EBERT FREDERICK M 1910 1 Hackney London
HOUSEHOLD EBERT GEORGE M 1883 28 Hackney London

(If you do a search for EBERT with glass as occupation,George pops up.)
Maureen

EDIT-Oops-missed one:
EBERT GEORGE WILLIAM M 1910 1 Hackney London

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Aug 2009 14:24

I don't lnow! Am I getting way off base with these EBERTs???
1901 Ancestry
Name: George Ebert
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Emma
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, London, England
Civil parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: St Barnabas Homerton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:Glass blower

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: South-East Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 142
Household Members:
Name Age
George Ebert 68
Emma Ebert 45
Mary Ebert 20
George Ebert 18
John Ebert 14
Joseph Ebert 11
Harry Ebert 1

Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 229; Folio: 137; Page: 28.

Maureen

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Aug 2009 14:33

No, Maureen, I think you are bang on base -as usual!
Homerton was one of the addresses in the (several )service records for George William Hibbert
I think we are dealing with the phonetic spelling of an enumerator unfamiliar with Cockneys!

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Aug 2009 14:47

On the other hand this is beginning to look like a bit of later gentrification!
George William EBERT born 1883 mar Q Hackney 1b 582
George EBERT married Emma Jasper 1880 Hackney 1b 825

MaureeninNY

MaureeninNY Report 18 Aug 2009 14:49

Thanks,Gillian!
Adding an "h" instead of dropping it!!!

Maureen

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 18 Aug 2009 14:50

1891 69 Glyn Road hackney
George Ebert 54 Fancy Leather Casr maker b Hackney
Emma 38 wife
Mary A 10
George W 8
John W 4
Richard J 1 all born Hackney

Sarah

Sarah Report 20 Aug 2014 11:19

I know I am 5 years out of date with this but here's trying!

I am researching my family tree - my grandmother was Margaret Hibbard. I came across your board from 2009 and the information we knew about her (very little, as she was adopted) fits in with what you were posting. We knew when she was born, that she was from Hackney and that her Dad was a glass blower.

Do you have any more information about the family? Would love to learn more about them - and your connection to them!

I do hope this message reaches you, as it is 5 years since you posted on here!

Kindest regards,

Sarah

jax

jax Report 20 Aug 2014 12:38

Welcome to the boards Sarah

Click on dasyl's name and send a private message, she may not be checking the boards now

If her email address is still the same she will be notified

Sarah

Sarah Report 20 Aug 2014 13:41

Thanks Jax - have tried that now. Hope I get a reply! I am so interested to find out more about her!