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Janet

Janet Report 16 Sep 2014 14:57

Thank you to you all for all your help. I am slowly unravelling this side of my family now with all your help. Thank you so much.

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 6 Sep 2014 21:44

Groom's first name(s) John Matthew
Groom's last name Lockwood
Marriage year 1888
Marriage date 28 May 1888
Bride's first name(s) Charlotte
Bride's last name Radford
Church Sheffield St.Philip Shalesmoor
Marriage place Sheffield, Sheffield St.Philip Shalesmoor
Groom's marital status Bachelor
Groom's age 23
Groom's father's first name(s) John
Groom's father's last name Lockwood
Bride's marital status Spinster
Bride's age 18
Bride's father's first name(s) Robert
Bride's father's last name Radford
Notes Groom's Father Deceased
County Yorkshire
Country England
Record set Sheffield Marriages

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 6 Sep 2014 09:57

What occupation was recorded for Henry on his son's marriage cert?

perhaps you don't know that there wasn't a penalty for not registering a birth until 1875, so that may be why you can't find one for Henry

If you get a copy of Joseph's birth cert, you'll find out what Charlotte's maiden name was, which should help with unravelling this, although the baptism doesn't leave much room for doubt about his father

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Sep 2014 16:20

These would seem to relevant to John Mathew Lockwood:-

British Army Service Records 1760-1915 Transcription
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First name(s) JOHN MATHEW
Last name LOCKWOOD
Birth year 1865
Birth parish HUDDERSFIELD
Birth town HUDDERSFIELD
Birth county YORKSHIRE
Birth country ENGLAND
Service number 1646
Rank -
Regiment Durham Light Infantry - 68th & 106th Foot
Document Type Attestation
Attestation year 1884
Attestation Day 5
Attestation Month 12
Attestation age years 19
Attestation age months 2
Attestation Corps Durham Light Infantry
Attestation service number 1646
Discharge Corps Durham Light Infantry
Series chelsea pensioners british army service records 1760-1913
Box 3307
Box Record Number 92
Record set British Army Service Records 1760-1915
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Record collection Regimental & service records
Collections from Great Britain

..............................................

Name: John Mathew Lockwood
Event Type: Pension
Event Year Range: 1760-1913
Event Place: United Kingdom
Birthplace: Yorkshire
Birth Year (Estimated): 1865
This image is available:

"United Kingdom, Chelsea Pensioners' Service Records, 1760-1913," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5C4-JYM : accessed 05 Sep 2014), John Mathew Lockwood, ; citing "Chelsea Pensioners' Service Records 1760-1913," Brightsolid; WO 97, WO97, The National Archives, Kew, Richmond.

(Having trouble finding any later records for John Mathew. No further info on the ancestry tree either ??)
Looks like another one that disappeared.

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Sep 2014 16:07

(On marriage certificate it states that John was living Dixon Street and his father was called John and was deceased)


There's a tree on ancestry with this family (has some lovely photos too).

It states that in 1911 Joseph was living with his mother and ( stepfather ).

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Sep 2014 16:02

I wonder?

1901 England Census about John Lockwood
Name: John Lockwood
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hallam
Ecclesiastical parish: St Bartholomew
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer

Condition as to marriage: Single

Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Hallam
ED, institution, or vessel: 44
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4344
Folio: 46
Page Number: 37
Household schedule number: 250
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Sellers 31
Agnes Sellers 27
Samuel Sellers 7
Fred Sellers 2
John Lockwood 37

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Sep 2014 15:58

Baptism clearly gives John Mathew as father:-

England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 about Joseph Lockwood
Name: Joseph Lockwood
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 23 Jan 1889
Baptism Place: St. Philip's, Sheffield, York, England
Father: John Matthew Lockwood
Mother: Charlotte Lockwood
FHL Film Number: 6343602
Reference ID: yr 1883-1892 p 317

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 5 Sep 2014 15:58

Wonder if this is Charlotte before she was with Henry / Harry?

1881

Name: Charlotte Radford
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Relationship to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Nether Hallam
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 180 Penistone Road
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub-registration district: Nether Hallam
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4623
Folio: 126
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Barthorpe 56
Elizabeth Barthorpe 50
Harry Radford 21
Arthur Radford 19
Charlotte Radford 10


Name: Charlotte Eliza Radford
Registration Year: 1870
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: Worksop
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7b
Page: 31


Name: Charlotte Radford
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Sheffield
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 706
Records on Page:
Name
John Francis Lawrence
John Matthew Lockwood
Charlotte Radford
Martha Jane Thompson

Catherine

Catherine Report 5 Sep 2014 15:54

The John M. Lockwood in 1891 census can't be the same person as the Henry Lockwood in 1901 census.

John M. Lockwood states born in Huddersfield:-
Births Dec 1865 (>99%)
Lockwood John Matthew Huddersfield 9a 291
............which would fit with the marriage record.

In 1901 census Harry is noted as being born in 1858 Sheffield:-
Births Jun 1858 (>99%)
Lockwood Henry Sheffield 9c 367 ??


The couple may have seperated and Charlotte went on to live with Henry/Harry but never married him. As Joseph was very young at the time then he may have only known Henry and so put his name down on his marriage record?

Choccy

Choccy Report 5 Sep 2014 15:28

same family in 1901 (posted by Lindsey in 2008)



1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

8, Holdsforth Square, Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Harry Lockwood Head - Male 43 1858 General Labourer Sheffield, Yorkshire
Charlotte Lockwood Wife - Female 29 1872 - Worksop
Joseph Lockwood Son - Male 12 1889 - Sheffield, Yorkshire


Choccy

Choccy Report 5 Sep 2014 15:21



1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription

18 Freehold Terrace Courtney ST, Sculcoates, Yorkshire, England

Henry Lockwood Head Married Male 48 1863 Sheffield Yorkshire Dock Labourer
Charlotte Lockwood Wife Married Female 40 1871 Worksop Nottinghamshire -
Joseph Lockwood Son Single Male 22 1889 Sheffield Yorkshire Labourer In Sawmill

safc

safc Report 5 Sep 2014 15:13

????

Lockwood, Harry (of Pitsmoor, born 1860-07-10).
Baptised August 23, 1861, by Hy. Barlow at Christ Church, Pitsmoor.
Parents name(s) are Eliza & Charles (Merchant).

http://sheffieldindexers.com/ParishBaptismIndex.html

Janet

Janet Report 5 Sep 2014 15:07

Also Josephs birth cert. every time I try to find that the father is listed as John.
thanks Janet

Janet

Janet Report 5 Sep 2014 15:05

It's Harry/Henry 's birth I cannot find.
thanks
Janet

Janet

Janet Report 5 Sep 2014 15:04

I was very grateful for all the information given but I still cannot find Henry/Harry Lockwood which is mentioned on Josephs marriage cert as his father.

Janet

Janet Report 2 Jan 2009 21:21

Thank you to all those who have replyed to me I am very grateful for all your help. It is very helpful information thanks.
Regards
Janet

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Dec 2008 22:46

Theonly marriage to a charlotte is this one

Name: Charlotte Radford to John Matthew Lockwood
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Sheffield
County: South Yorkshire, Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9c
Page: 706 (click to

Catherine

Catherine Report 25 Dec 2008 22:42

This looks to be the birth for Joesph, which will give his mothers maiden name:-

Births Mar 1889 (>99%)
Lockwood Joseph Sheffield 9c 427

 Lindsey*

Lindsey* Report 25 Dec 2008 22:29

HARRY is another name for Henry , this is them

1901 England Census
about Joseph Lockwood
Name: Joseph Lockwood
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Harry
Mother's Name: Charlotte
Gender: Male
Where born: Sheffield, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Leeds
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
Town: Leeds
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Leeds
Sub registration district: South East Leeds
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 131
Household Members: Name Age
Harry Lockwood 43 General Labourer
Charlotte Lockwood 29 Worksop
Joseph Lockwood 12


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and in spite of some differences this is also the

1891 England Census
about Charlotte E Lockwood
Name: Charlotte E Lockwood
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John M
Gender: Female
Where born: Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Nether Hallam
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
Town: Sheffield
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow
Sub registration district: Nether Hallam
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John M Lockwood 26 Labourer Navy
Charlotte E Lockwood 21 Worksop
Joseph Lockwood 2


Janet

Janet Report 25 Dec 2008 22:19

Henry Lockwood
I am trying to find a Henry Lockwood born c1858 either in the sheffield area or leeds area. He was married to a Charlotte and had one child only, a son Joseph c 1889.
I get so far in my search and then it gets mixed up with a John Lockwood who also had a wife called Charlotte and a son called Joseph.
I hope some one can sort this mix up out for me because I am getting really frustrated with this one.
Regards
Janet