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Worth a try!
I don't have worldwide Ancestry at the moment so I couldn't narrow it down and home in.
And I should have known that question of mine was going to look a tad silly.
:-D
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Yes, I know what you meant, JC - it just sounded funny. Sorry!
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Looking at whitepages.com.au, there's someone with surname Vincent in Mullumbimby, where Bernard Baynard was in 1980.
Just possibly a relation?
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Ahem, ArgyllGran. :-)
He must have been the father of the *biological* aunt's husband, i.e. of Darealjolo's uncle-in-law!
Because if Bernard was the father of her *biological* uncle, he would be Darealjolo's parent's father, too, i.e. Darealjolo's grandfather!
I don't tend to describe my grandfather as my uncle's father. :-D
... Now, the other possibility is that Darealjolo's uncle has a different father from her parent, and so her parent and her uncle are half-siblings ... true.
And that might just be the case here, given that Bernard's first wife remarried ...
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I had to laugh hysterically, JC -
" . . . . if he was your uncle's father, your uncle must be your aunt's husband?"
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Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Bernard Baynard Vincent
Residence: 1968 - city, Werriwa, New South Wales, Australia
Name: Margaret Vincent
Residence: 1968 - city, Werriwa, New South Wales, Australia
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Bernard Baynard Vincent
Residence: 1972 - city, Macquarie, New South Wales, Australia
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Bernard Baynard Vincent
Residence: 1977 - city, Chifley, New South Wales, Australia
Australia, Electoral Rolls, 1903-1980
Name: Bernard Baynard Vincent
Residence: 1980 - city, Richmond, New South Wales, Australia
Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955
Name: Bernard B Vincent + Margaret Vincent
Year: 1950
Street address: 15 SOUTHWOLD AVENUE
Residence Place: Birmingham
https://trove.nla.gov.au/result?q=bernard+baynard+vincent
Government Gazette of the State of New South Wales (Sydney, NSW : 1901 - 2001)
APPOINTMENTS ON PROBATION
Department of Technical Education
Mr Bernard Baynard Vincent, Teacher of Building Certificate, 10th May, 1965.
CONFIRMATION OF APPOINTMENTS
Department of Technical Education
Mr Bernard Baynard Vincent
RETIREMENTS
5th May, 1978. Bernard Baynard Vincent, Technical Teacher
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For info, the only birth/marriage/death record of a Bernard B Vincent (other than the mistranscribed marriage above) is
Marriages Jun 1948
Vincent Bernard B - Jones - Harrow 5f 1044
so there does seem to have been a divorce, or at least a remarriage (Alice remarried later as well).The second wife's name is far too common to identify her birth/death or previous marriage, or any children of that marriage.
His marriage certificates seem to be the essential place to start for any more info (age and father's name he reported).
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Sometimes one can't resist ...
Did Bernard's parents marry only one year before he did??
Marriages Sep 1942
Broadway Alice D -Vincent- Uppingham 7a 975
Vincent Bernard R -Broadway- Uppingham 7a 975
- note that the image says Bernard B, not Bernard R
Marriages Sep 1941
BOW Muriel E -VINCENT- East Ham 4a 363
Vincent Herbert H -Bow- E. Ham 4a 363
Seems unlikely ... there were Vincent-Bow births through the 1940s/50s.
Two deaths for Bernard Vincent born 1918
Bernard Walter Vincent 3 Aug 1918 - Dec 1972 Sheffield Yorkshire West Riding
Bernard Harry J Vincent 21 May 1918 - Nov 1989 Bath Avon
the matching births:
Births Sep 1918
Vincent Bernard W mother Darwin Sheffield 9c 936
Births Jun 1918
Vincent Bernard H J mother Welsford Wells 5c 558
BHJ Vincent (name seems possible) married Violet Vaughn 1943 Bath
Obviously neither of those births have parents who match the info in the OP.
I hope Rebecca has got it sorted out since then!
Darealjolo, if he was your uncle's father, your uncle must be your aunt's husband?
Quite a few people have a Bernard Vincent 1918 in their trees here
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/tree/results/vincent/bernard?yearofbirth=1918
some with no place of birth, some with Uppingham, so one suspects that those entries are the same man. Several of them also have
Alice Broadway 1916 Uppingham,Rutland
and one has
Herbert Vincent 1895 Unknown
His death:
Herbert Harry Vincent 9 May 1895 - Jun 1972 Cheltenham Gloucestershire
Births Jun 1895 ?
Vincent Herbert Harry Islington 1b 328
1911 in Battersea
Harry Thomas Vincent 42
Minnie Vincent 40
Herbert Harry Vincent 15
Albert Cyril Vincent 7
One person has in their tree at this site:
Albert Vincent 1903 14 Charlwood Place, Pimlico, London
There is no Herbert H Vincent marriage between 1911 and 1926.
The spouse in the 1926 marriage in Bournemouth was:
Births Jun 1898
GAME Daisy Ethel Christchurch 2b 660
Daisy Ethel Vincent 29 May 1898 - Sep 1969 Exeter Devon
I wonder whether that couple had children before marriage ...
Births Mar 1915
GAME Herbert C Game Ongar 4a 1023
Births Dec 1916 (died March Q 1918)
Game Harry W S Game Billericay 4a 1117
Births Jun 1917
Game Ellen F Game W.Ham 4a 445
Births Dec 1918
Game Ethel M Game Ongar 4a 680
Births Dec 1919
Game Harry F M Game Bromley 2a 1064
... the names certainly fit! But no Bernard.
1939 register
Herbert H Vincent 1902 (no such 1902 birth; 1903 only)
Daisy E Vincent 1898
1 more person who is officially closed
The 1939 register shows no Bernard Vincent born between 1915 and 1920, and no Bernard B Vincent.
A 1942 marriage does suggest wartime ... and possibly a man not born in England.
I wondered about
Name: Herbert Vincent
Birth Date: abt 1895
Age: 32
Port of Departure: Rangoon, Burma
Arrival date: 7 May 1927
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Colombo
occupation: Accountant
country of last permanent residence: Iraq
but NO, that was very probably Herbert Basil Vincent 1895 who has another passenger record from the East.
I give up! :-)
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Darealjolo, it's 10 years since Rebecca posted so is unlikely to be looking for replies ( especially as she didn't return to the thread) click on her name to message her , if she still has the same email she'll be notified and able to reply.
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Hi Rebecca,
I think Bernard is my uncles father, would you be able to inbox me please.
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I doubt if he was born in England......no marriage on freebmd for the names given for his parents..........
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What else do you wish to know?
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This is my grandfather, he devorced my grandmother at some point. They were married in Uppingham, Rutland in 1942, All I have is that he was born 1918 !. His RAF no' is 905292. His father was Herbert Harry and MOther Muriel E Vincent. Can anyone HELP
Rebecca bryce
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