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Welcome to the boards jzz

As you can see Margaret posted this in 2008 and never returned, so she probably will not see your post either

You can try contacting her by clicking on her name, if her email address is still the same she will be notified

Have researched this line back 5+ generations. Also have a photo of Lydia Hannah Hames' parents, James Jackson Hames and Lucy Holt. Are you are still interested?

Looks like the name was either mistranscribed or the spelling changed over the years


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about John Emes
Name: John Emes to Mary Jackson
Year of Registration: 1855
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 726


1851 England Census
about Mary Jackson
Name: Mary Jackson
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1834
Relation: Granddaughter
Father's Name: David
Mother's Name: Betty
Gender: Female
Where born: Chadderton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Chadderton
Ecclesiastical parish: South Chadderton St Margaret
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Chadderton
ED, institution, or vessel: 1g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 92
Household Members:
Name Age
Betty Jackson 40
David Jackson 41
David Jackson 10
James Jackson 5
John Jackson 69
John Jackson 15
Mary Jackson 66
Mary Jackson 17
Robert Jackson 3

They obviously liked the name James!


1871 England Census
about John Hanes
Name: John Hanes
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Chadderton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

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Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Chadderton
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
David Hames 12
George Hames 3 months
James W Hames 2
Robert Hames 6
James J Hanes 15
John Hanes 38
Mary Hanes 37

Mistranscribed in 1861


1861 England Census
about John Eames
Name: John Eames
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Nottingham, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Chadderton
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Chadderton
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 56
Household Members:
Name Age
David Eames 2
James J Eames 5
John Eames 28
Mary Eames 27
William Eames 7 Mo

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Jackson Knight
Name: Jackson Knight
Year of Registration: 1915
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Hames
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 946


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Jessie Knight
Name: Jessie Knight
Year of Registration: 1921
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Hames
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 1102

1871 England Census
about Lucy Holt
Name: Lucy Holt
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Prestwich With Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 31
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
Fredk G Holt 18
Hannah E Holt 16
Lucy Holt 14
Mary Holt 49
Richard Holt 8
Samuel H Holt 13
William H Holt 11

Lydia's parents' marriage (mistranscribed as Hamer)


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about James Jackson Hamer
Name: James Jackson Hamer to Lucy Holt
Year of Registration: 1877
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 805

In 1901, Lydia is staying with her Uncle. I believe her mother remarried someone called Seth Winterbottom in 1894. On the night of the 1901 census Lucy Winterbottom and daughter Elsie are in another household (in service)


1901 England Census
about Lydia H Hames
Name: Lydia H Hames
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Chadderton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Margaret
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 55
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 328
Household Members:
Name Age
David Hames 42
Esther Hames 40
John R Hames 14
Lydia H Hames 14


1901 England Census
about Lucy Winterbottom
Name: Lucy Winterbottom
Age: 43
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1858
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: Chadderton St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Below Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 376
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert Whittaker 30
John Whittaker 69
Joseph Whittaker 23
Robert Whittaker 26
Elsie Winterbottom 6
Lucy Winterbottom 43

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about James Jackson Hames
Name: James Jackson Hames
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 32
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 545

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1983
about Ernest Hames
Name: Ernest Hames
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Year of Registration: 1889
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 9
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 534

1881 England Census
about James J. Hames
Name: James J. Hames
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Lucy
Gender: Male
Where born: Chadderton, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Chadderton
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 8 Drury Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Cotton Operative

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Chadderton
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ernest Hames 1 month
Jackson Hames 13 (incorrect - image reads aged 3)
James J. Hames 25
Lucy Hames 24

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England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Lydia Hannah Hames
Name: Lydia Hannah Hames
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 893


England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index: 1837-1983
about Lydia Hannah Hames
Name: Lydia Hannah Hames
Year of Registration: 1886
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 726


1891 England Census
about Lydia H Hames
Name: Lydia H Hames
Age: 4
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Lucy
Gender: Female
Where born: Hollinwood, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Chadderton
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Chadderton
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jackson Hames 13
Lucy Hames 34
Lydia H Hames 4

TRYING TO FIND ANYONE WHO KNOWS OF LYDIA HAMES OF OLDHAM MARRIED HARRY KNIGHT