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Ezra Shama

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Susan

Susan Report 12 Jun 2013 22:59

I have discounted the Ezra Shammah link as 'my' Ezra had died prior to 1944 (this was verified by Ginette's (Ezra's daughter) marriage certificate.

Susan

Susan Report 12 Jun 2013 22:38

I am unsure whether Ezra actually lived in England. I only know he visited England when on business.

Ezra's daughter, Ginette, claimed English citizenship on her 1944 marriage certificate.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jun 2013 22:32

Just posting possibly to eliminate:

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960

Name: Ezra Shammah
Gender: Male
Age: 44
Birth Date: abt 1901
Departure Date: 13 Nov 1945
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: Port Said, Egypt
Ship Name: Drottningholm
Shipping Line: Swedish American
Master: J Nordlander

Address in England had been 127 Lapwing Lane, Didsbury, Manchester.

He was a merchant, a Syrian subject and intending to live in Egypt.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 12 Jun 2013 22:29

Hi Sue, i take it he did live in England at some point? If so, do you know whereabouts?

Susan

Susan Report 12 Jun 2013 22:29

Many thanks,

Yes, those initial comments were mine, I've tried so many links I've lost count but I won't give up ................

Rambling

Rambling Report 12 Jun 2013 22:19

Sue, I've taken the liberty of posting this link as it shows what has been suggested already,

http://www.familytreeforum.com/showthread.php/103005-French-records

Susan

Susan Report 12 Jun 2013 21:54

Hello,

For some considerable time I've been trying to find further information regarding Ezra Shama.

My investigations have located a gentleman named Ezra who had been born circa 1882 in Egypt.. His parents were French (but no further details available).

Possibly this connection could have influenced Ezra's choice of a name for his daughter i.e. Ginette.

I would appreciate any further advice or suggestions.

Kind regards
Sue

Pam

Pam Report 5 Jun 2008 08:40

Not sure if it will help but you could take a look at

www.cyndislist.com
or
www.movinghere.org.uk

Susan

Susan Report 4 Jun 2008 22:16

I have tried the 'quick search' option and have contacted a couple of the people, just on the 'off chance' - but it seemed I have just been clutching at straws and they were unable to offer any assistance.
I seem to be running out of ideas.
Ginette married, whilst serving with WAAF in Alexandria in 1944, just know Ezra had died by that time. A witness to the marriage was an Ida Shama (once again unable to locate her details).
I'm 'stuck up a gum tree without a paddle' I think!!!!

Pam

Pam Report 4 Jun 2008 22:03

These are the only Ginettes I can find between 1915 and 1920


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
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Hollier Ginette G I Read Portsmouth 2b 703


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
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Nachmann Ginette Nachmann Chorlton 8c 1772

Pam

Pam Report 4 Jun 2008 21:59

If you use Quick seach at the top of the page and put in Ezra Shama....there are no listings but at that point you can change the form at the bottom of the page to just Shama (no first name) and there are three pages of listings...mainly Egypt and Middle East origins.

Susan

Susan Report 4 Jun 2008 21:50

Hi Pam,
Thanks but unfortunately these details don't match - Ezra (born 1912) couldn't have been Ginette's father (she was born in 1917).
I have already discounted the Shama/Cobley marriage as not being viable.
I am unsure whether Ezra was born in UK - only information I have is from his daughter, Ginette's marriage certificate.
Ginette served in WAAF during World War II (unable to locate her birth details either) and her nationality was given as 'English'.
Any other ideas?????
Sue

Pam

Pam Report 4 Jun 2008 21:49

1901 England Census
about Leopold Shama
Name: Leopold Shama
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Broughton
Ecclesiastical parish: Higher Broughton St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:
Registration district: Salford
Sub registration district: Broughton
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 7
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah J Parry 28
Benjamin Rosenthall 7
Bertha Rosenthall 28
Irena Rosenthall 1 month
Isaac Rosenthall 3
Louis Rosenthall 5
Wodfe Rosenthall 32
Leopold Shama 25
Sydney Shama 28



Pam

Pam Report 4 Jun 2008 21:48

1891 England Census
about Leopold Shama
Name: Leopold Shama
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Relation: Son
Parent's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Cheetham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
Town: Manchester
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Prestwich
Sub registration district: Cheetham
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Neighbors:
Household Members: Name Age
Jean Jones 22
Kate O'Hana 27
Eliza Shama 61
Julius Shama 13
Leopold Shama 15
Sydney Shama 17
Victor Shama 20



Pam

Pam Report 4 Jun 2008 21:47

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Shama Ezra L Cobley Stockport 8a 205

June

June Report 4 Jun 2008 21:47

found this

Births Dec 1894 (>99%)
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Sharim Eric Ezra Ormskirk 8b 812




1901

Name: Eric Sharim
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Seyon A
Mother's Name: Rose
Gender: Male
Where born: Southport, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Harrogate
Ecclesiastical parish: St Luke
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Knaresborough
Sub registration district: Harrogate
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Pratt 25
Eric Sharim 6
Rose Sharim 34
Seyon A Sharim 33
Violet Sharim 10




June x

Pam

Pam Report 4 Jun 2008 21:42

These are the only Shama births on Freebmd

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1904 (>99%)
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SHAMA Mazal Prestwich 8d 385


Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Shama Ezra L Cobley Stockport 8a 205

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Births Jun 1922 (99%)
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Shama Regina Harari Chorlton 8c 1049


Pam

Pam Report 4 Jun 2008 21:41

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
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>>>COBLEY Esther Miriam Salford 8d 248
>>>COBLEY Maud Miriam Salford 8d 248
Hall Mary Ann Salford 8d 248
>>>Shama Leopold Salford 8d 248
SULLIVAN William John Salford 8d 248

Pam

Pam Report 4 Jun 2008 21:39

Surname First name(s) Mother/Spouse/Age District Vol Page

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Births Jun 1912 (>99%)
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Shama Ezra L Cobley Stockport 8a 205

Susan

Susan Report 4 Jun 2008 21:33

Help!!! Does anyone have any information relating to Ezra Shama (I only know he had died prior to October 1944, his occupation was a 'Cotton Classifier' and he had a daughter called Ginette who was born circa 1917).
I apologise for these scant details but any information would be so much appreciated.
Kind regards
Sue