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Arthur Waterhouse is my great uncle...

just adding to my watched threads

The information you have provided for me is fantastic, thank you so much: you have filled in a lot of the gaps and provided info i knew nothing about previously.

Are you around Jane?

This looks like Mary before marriage as the elder brother John is also there.

1871 England Census
about Mary Ogden
Name: Mary Ogden
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Prestwich With Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: Glodwick
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image
Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Above Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 58
Household Members: Name Age
John Ogden 73
John Ogden 29
Mary Ogden 26


Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 4100; Folio: 9; Page: 12;

Christine

Samuel with his parents before marriage

1861 England Census
about Samuel Roe
Name: Samuel Roe
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: Leesfield
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Above Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
Jane Roe 50 born Ashton under Lyne
John W Roe 11
Samuel Roe 48 born Ashton under lyne
Samuel Roe 16
Sarah J Roe 13


Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 3022; Folio: 11; Page: 16;

1881 England Census
about Samuel Roe
Name: Samuel Roe
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldham

Civil Parish: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address: 141 Acre Lane
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: Rent Collector (Clk)

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Above Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 14
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Ogden 39 brother in law
Annie Roe 3
Clara Roe 6
Mary Roe 36
Samuel Roe 36
Sarah Jane Roe 8


Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 4079; Folio: 112; Page: 8; Line:


Probable marriage of Samuel and Mary
Marriages Mar 1872 (>99%)

Hayes George Manchester 8d 642
Letts Emma Manchester 8d 642
<<OGDEN Mary Manchester 8d 642
<<ROE Samuel Manchester 8d 642

Christine

1891 census - Chinley - Derbyshire

Elijah Waterhouse - head - 48 - iron moulder - Chinley
Esther Waterhouse - wife - 45
Mary A Waterhouse - dau - 24 - paper tube maker
John W Waterhouse - son - 21 -clerk
Sol(?) Waterhouse - son - 19
Fred Waterhouse - son - 15
Ethel Waterhouse - dau - 12
Shilton (?) - son - 8(?)

All born Chinley, Derbyshire

1891 England Census
about Sarah J Roe
Name: Sarah J Roe
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Female
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Above Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Sarah Griffiths 20
Annie Roe 13
Mary Roe 47 born Oldham
Samuel Roe 46 born Oldham, occ confectioner
Sarah J Roe 18


Source Citation: Class: RG12; Piece: 3312; Folio 17; Page 28

Christine

Hi,

Found this on 1901 census, does this look right?

1901 England Census
about Arthur R Waterhouse
Name: Arthur R Waterhouse
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John W
Mother's Name: Sarah J
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Above Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur R Waterhouse 3
Ethel Waterhouse 2
John W Waterhouse 31
Sarah J Waterhouse 28

Found a John W, possible Arthurs father in 1891 census;

1891 England Census
about John W Waterhouse
Name: John W Waterhouse
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Elijah
Mother's Name: Esther
Gender: Male
Where born: Chinley, Derbyshire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
Town: Oldham
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Above Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elijah Waterhouse 48
Esther Waterhouse 45
Ethel Waterhouse 12
Fred Waterhouse 15
Hilton Waterhouse 8
Joe Waterhouse 19
John W Waterhouse 21
Mary A Waterhouse 20


John is a book keeper (commercial) in the 1901 census born in Chinley, Derbyshire, the John W I found in the 1891 census is a clerk? Strong possibility this is the same person, however John's father is Elijah.

regards, Dee

This looks like the marriage of his parents

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page


Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%)

Livsey Thomas Oldham 8d 1249
<<Roe Sarah Jane Oldham 8d 1249
Skinner Mary Oldham 8d 1249
<<Waterhouse John William Oldham 8d 1249

The marriage cert would give both their father's names and their ages when married.

Christine

1901 England Census
about Arthur R Waterhouse
Name: Arthur R Waterhouse
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John W
Mother's Name: Sarah J
Gender: Male
Where born: Oldham, Lancashire, England

Civil Parish: Oldham
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Oldham
Sub registration district: Oldham Above Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 118
Household Members: Name Age
Arthur R Waterhouse 3
Ethel Waterhouse 2
John W Waterhouse 31
Sarah J Waterhouse 28


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The birth cert will give you his parents names

Births Sep 1897 (>99%)

Waterhouse Arthur Roe Oldham 8d 682

Christine

My grandfather was Arthur Waterhouse born June 17th 1897 (Oldham) / died in 1990 married to Dorothy Catton in 1925. Arthur's father was John Waterhouse who i believe died in 1943. It is unclear who he was married to: Virginia Roe or Sarah Roe are the two names i have been given. I believe John's father was Joseph Waterhouse. If you have any details beyond Joseph or can clarify existing information that would be most helpful