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Hello Valerie, if you go to the first page of Find Ancestors board there is a link that says "Add Topic" - use that to start a new thread of yur own and you'll get a much betterb response. :-)

not really a good idea to tag your request on another members thread as it would be better to start your own thread

Does anyone have any details for the following
. I am looking for a Frederick Sanders who died 1891 to1901, born 1857 in Birmingham Warwickshire.

Father William Henry Sanders, Mother Harriett Richardson

Fred was a jeweller. and married in 1876 to a Elsie Herridge, but not together after 1880. Elsie was the Dau of Henry Herridge who was the proprietor of the Albion Hotel in Livery St Birmingham. cannot find him on the census. Hop[e you can help from V.Mucklow

JIM

Not entirely convinved that is my Frederick Sa(u)nder(s). Age is definitely not right, and birth area not right, but then of course if you were 21ish, you never told them the right answers!!

Thank you very much for your help
Regards
Jo

Jim

Got that wrong without 's' !!

Jo

Nicki

Thank you for the info re Foleshill. That must be the death of Isaac then. How sad, he died just before his son Frederick married in April

Many thanks for your help

JIM

Been trawling through, but cannot find on 1891 - found my mistake. Its under Sander - with 's' - am going to look again

Many thanks to you all
Jo

Foleshill is Warwickshire.

Nicki

Jim and Sheila

Thank you for finding Frederick and Ellen on the 1901 Census. I had tried some variations, but not SANDERS!!. Thank you very much

NICOLA
The 1891 Census for Isaac Saunders does not refer to my Isaac. On the 1891 Census he should be between 57 and 60 (variations from previous census)
Thank you very much for looking though.
Very near - born in Netherton!
Not sure what to say about the death - I think 6d is a Birmingham area, so it is possibly right.

IVY
Thank you for the Genuki entry re Netherton. I must change my details from Warwicks to Worcs!!
Thank you very much

JIM
Will check up the 1891 entry in Birmingham for Fred Sanders and see what I think

Thank you all very much indeed
Regards
Jo

RE Netherton: the Genuki entry has:

NETHERTON, a village and chapelry in the parish of Dudley St. Thomas, and Dudley St. Edmund, county Worcester, 1 mile S.W. of Dudley. It is situated on the Stourbridge canal, in the heart of an extensive mining and manufacturing district. There are extensive collieries and mines of ironstone. The inhabitants are mostly employed in the numerous furnaces for smelting iron ore, and in the manufacture of nails. The living is a perpetual curacy in the diocese of Worcester, value £300, in the patronage of the Vicar of Dudley. The church, dedicated to St. Andrew, was erected in 1831, by grant from the parliamentary commissioners. There are several places of worship belonging to the Baptists, Wesleyans, New Connexion and Primitive Methodists. There are National and other schools."

[Description(s) from The National Gazetteer of Great Britain and Ireland (1868)
Transcribed by Colin Hinson ©2003]

ISAAC's DEATH

Deaths Mar 1894

Sanders Isaac 77 Foleshill 6d 333

????
1891
Frederick Sander abt 1870 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Servant Birmingham, Warwickshire

Jo,
Here is Frederick and Ellen mis-spelt

1901
Frederick T Sanders
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Netherton, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
James Haddon 61
Amy Sanders 1
Ellen Sanders 28
Frederick T Sanders
I will look again for 1891.

Sheila

1901 England Census
about Frederick T Sanders
Name: Frederick T Sanders
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Ellen
Gender: Male
Where born: Netherton, Worcestershire, England

Civil Parish: Birmingham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Stephen
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Birmingham
Sub-registration district: St George
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 49
Household Members: Name Age
James Haddon 61
Amy Sanders 1
Ellen Sanders 28
Frederick T Sanders 32

I have a Frederick Thomas Saunders b ca Dec 1867 Netherton, Warwicks.
His father was Isaac Saunders, a Horsenail Maker with wife Mary

On the 1871 Census at RG10/3017 Fol 103 Page 7, the family lived at Halesowen Road, Netherton, Dudley, Worcestershire

NOT SURE whether Netherton is in Worcestershire or Warwicks?

On the 1881 Census, they lived at 3 Railway Terrace, Allison St., Birmingham RG11.2987 Folio 47 Page 36.

I cannot find the family on 1891 or 1901 census.

Frederick married in 1894 to Ellen Henley in Birmingham, and I know his father (Isaac Saunders) was deceased by then - MC says so! The address on the MC gives 27 Ct Summer Lane, Birmingham for both of them.

Who can find Fred on the 1891 census and both of them (Fred and Ellen) on the 1901 census for me please?

Many thanks
Jo