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Despite help from folks I still cant find Robert Pepper in Canada.
He was born in Kirkcudbright in 1884 the son of William Pepper and Marion Straiton, William from Battle and Marion from Kirkcudbright. I was told he left KKd and emigrated to Winnipeg, He was my Great Uncle and is my brick wall.

Any help really appreciated

Kathleen

For reference - this looks like Robert in 1901.

LL

1901 Scotland Census
about Robert W Pepper
Name: Robert W Pepper
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relationship: Serv (Servant)
Gender: Male
Where born: Balmaghie, Kirkcudbrightshire
Registration Number: 857A
Registration district: Balmaghie
Civil Parish: Balmaghie
County: Kirkcudbrightshire
Address: Balmaghie House
Occupation: Gardener (apprentice)
ED: 2
Household schedule number: 28
Line: 13
Roll: CSSCT1901_436
Household Members:
Name Age
Grace Aitken 17
Helen Campbell 22
Robert W Pepper 17
Jane Straiton 66
Robert Straiton 67

Thank you for that. Yes its him living with grandparents.


Thanks again

Kathleen

Found this but I don't know if it is your Robert.

LL


Edited - just checked the image and I think it is your Robert, his occupation is gardener and he is bound for Winnipeg to join his Uncle, Fred Pepper.

Boston Passenger Lists, 1820-1943
about Robert Wm Pepper
Name: Robert Wm Pepper
Arrival Date: 21 May 1907
Age: 25 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Gender: Male
Ethnic Background: English
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ship Name: Corean
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Fred Pepper
Last Residence: England
Microfilm Roll Number: 107

I think this is your Robert. I have checked the census image and his middle name is actually William (not Berthan as it has been transcribed) and the surname is Pepper.

LL

1911 Census of Canada
about Robert Berthan Papper
Name: Robert Berthan Papper
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 28
Birth Date: Jul 1882
Birthplace: Scotland
Family Number: 91
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret
Immigration Year: 1907
Tribal: English
Province: Manitoba
District: Selkirk
District Number: 22
Sub-District: Part of Winnipeg
Sub-District Number: 53
Place of Habitation: 248 McIntosh
Census Year: 1911
Page: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Berthan Papper 28
Margaret Papper 31
Albert Galleridge 39


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The 1911 Canadian census has a Robert William Pepper living 248 McIntosh Ave., Selkirk, Manitoba. He was born July 1882, Scotland and emigrated 1907. he has a wife, Margaret born July 1879, Scotland who also emigrated 1907.

Just curious, LL, as to where your 1911 census came from because on Automated Genealogy he's transcribed Robert William.

http://www.automatedgenealogy.com/index.html

Hi Margaret,

It's from Ancestry.

LL

There's a marriage in Winnipeg of Robert William Pepper and Maggie Moir 27 June 1908. Could it be them?

There's also a death in Winnipeg of Robert William Pepper 24 July 1933, age 50. His birthdate is given as 3 July 1883.

LL, I wonder if Maggie or Margaret Moir was on the same ship? It would confirm that marriage.

Good thinking Margaret,

I will take a look to see if I can see her.

LL

She is there, her name is above Robert's on the passenger list. Her name was entered as Maggie Moir and Maggie has been crossed through and replaced with Margaret.

LL

That's great, LL!
I hope murfthesmurf comes back.
Margaret

Uncle Fred's death?
Frederick Pepper died 27 July 1929, Winnipeg, age 62. Born 10 Oct. 1866.

Great to find this thread, even though it's old now!

I'm keen to find out if Robert & Margaret had children, can anyone help? Margaret is my gg aunt and I have lots on her tree if anyone interested, but don't know much about what happened in Canada.

(She is actually 10 years older than Robert... must have shaved a few years off when she met him, and who can blame her!)

Tracy - welcome to the boards.

As this thread is old as you have already noticed I doubt the posters will see your post - most of them probably are no longer members.

Start a thread of your own asking for help in finding what you want to know and someone will try to help you if they can. Include "Canada" in your title and those with access to Canadian records will hopefully see your thread.

Kath. x

1911-1921 Nominal census day was 1st June
Via http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/Pages/census.aspx :

1911 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001952100.pdf
[occup=teamster, i.e., truck/lorry driver]
1916 http://data2.collectionscanada.ca/006003/t-21933/pdf/31228_4363962-00206.pdf

Anyone can search 1921 and get images, transcriptions for free, but only via:
http://search.ancestry.ca/search/db.aspx?dbid=8991
[Don't let Ancestry bounce you to another of their sites]

1921 Name: Robert Repper
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1883
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Repper
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: Scotland
Year of Immigration: 1907
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Manitoba
District: Winnipeg North
District Number: 39
Sub-District: Winnipeg (City)
Sub-District Number: 7
City, Town or Village: City of Winnipeg Ward 3
Section Number: 248 McIntosh Ave
Municipality: Ward 3
Occupation: Chauffeur
Income: 1600
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Repper 38
Margaret Repper 43



http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

GROOM'S LAST NAME: PEPPER
GROOM'S GIVEN NAMES: ROBERT WILLIAM
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: MOIR
BRIDE'S GIVEN NAMES: MAGGIE
DATE OF MARRIAGE: 27/06/1908
PLACE OF MARRIAGE: WPG
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1908,002059
REGISTRATION DATE:

LAST NAME: PEPPER
GIVEN NAMES: ROBERT WILLIAM
DATE OF DEATH: 24/07/1933
AGE: 50
UNITS OF AGE: YEARS
SEX: MALE
PLACE OF DEATH: WPG
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1933,027179
REGISTRATION DATE:

LAST NAME: PEPPER
GIVEN NAMES: MARGARET
DATE OF DEATH: 27/12/1945
AGE: 73
UNITS OF AGE: YEARS
SEX: FEMALE
PLACE OF DEATH: WPG
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1945,048277
REGISTRATION DATE:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=122868030
Robert William Pepper
Birth: unknown
Death: Jul., 1938
Burial:
Elmwood Cemetery
Winnipeg
Greater Winnipeg
Manitoba, Canada
Plot: 3A-G0143

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=122868031
Margaret Pepper
Birth: unknown
Death: Dec., 1945
Burial:
Elmwood Cemetery
Winnipeg
Greater Winnipeg
Manitoba, Canada
Plot: 3A-G0143

[Note same plot #s - I think "Death: Jul., 1938" is a mistranscription of 1933]

McIntosh Ave is 2 blocks N of Elmwood Cemetery - Dearborn & Stanier (also on 1921 page) are just E of cemetery.
The Cemetery itself is abt 3km NE of Portage & Main, on the E bank of the Red R.

Many thanks for the advice Kath, and the great information mgnv (plus 1921 doc).

Sadly looks like no children but at least tidied up some loose ends. And I'll be back to the boards now I know what to do!

Tracy x