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G83
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21 Mar 2008 10:19 |
Hi all for a while now i have had a relation in my family tree which i now believe may be incorrect. I have a William Maslin 1842 marrying a Elizabeth Plank b1839 married 1862 having children Jane 1862, Henry 1864, George 1864, susan 1869, hannah 1874, david 1876, Eliza 1878, and charles 1880. mum and dad william / elizabeth born devizes wiltshire and the children in london areas. However i have found a connection on this site and that lady has a different mother / wife to william and these children. I dont know what is right or wrong here as im sure i have the right info. Any ideas or can anyone help in anyway?
thank you
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Wild Cat
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21 Mar 2008 10:23 |
Just a thought but have either of you got birth cert for Charles 1880
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G83
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21 Mar 2008 10:26 |
the lady hasnt got any i dont think but im sure i have susans somewhere and thats where i got the info from im sure but they are in the loft as thats an area i had finished with on the tree at the moment. I thought perhaps check the marriage index again the ref was married Devizes dec 1862 5a 223
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G83
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21 Mar 2008 17:38 |
can anyone help?
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Christopher
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21 Mar 2008 18:44 |
Yes, go with your instincts and the proof you have.
I looked at a tree I was allowed to see on here last week, it's wrong, the woman in question was married and her sister was living with them. That was probably where the surname has taken from. Unfortunately, if you go back to the 1841 census and the marriage indexes, she is a half sister. The father of the woman in question had died, leaving her mother a widow, the step father was living with his parents. They married after 1841 and had more children.
If you are sure you are correct and have all the evidence to prove it, stick to your guns.
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G83
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21 Mar 2008 19:19 |
thank you all, the lady has the same children, same children places of birth although the dates are out by like 1 year or so, and she has the children marrying into other families as i have. altho she has william born a few years before i have him and in a different area. She said she got the info from the cenus.
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21 Mar 2008 20:28 |
HI Alexandra,
- I think this is the 1871 census info (as you say, William a little older):
Rotherhithe, Surrey
Eliza Maslin m Wm abt 1837 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Wife
Elizabeth Maslin d of Wm, Eliza abt 1860 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Daughter
Jane Maslin d of Wm, Eliza abt 1862 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Daughter Wm Maslin m Eliza abt 1834 Newington, Surrey, England Head
George Maslin s of Wm, Eliza abt 1864 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Son
Henry Maslin Wm, Eliza abt 1864 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Son
John Maslin s of Wm, Eliza abt 1866 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Son
Susan Maslin d of Wm, Eliza abt 1869 Rotherhithe, Surrey, England Daughter
This census has no mention of Devises or Wiltshire, but if the birth certificate says the mother's maiden name is Plank, then the certificate is more likely to lead you to the correct parents than the census - each enumerator had to deal with huge volumes of info.
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21 Mar 2008 20:58 |
There is no mention of Devizes on any of the censuses and I think this is the family in 1861
William Maslin Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Eliza Gender: Male Where born: Walworth Civil Parish: Bermondsey St Mary Magdalene Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Surrey Country: England Registration district: Bermondsey Sub-registration district: St James ED, institution, or vessel: 12 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 351 Household Members: Name Age Eliza Maslin 23 Elizabeth Maslin 3 Mo William Maslin 26 Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 320; Folio: 143; Page: 62; GSU roll: 542614.
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Maggie
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18 Dec 2024 17:20 |
This post is from six years ago but I’m just hoping someone might see this link. I am linked to the Maslin’s of Rotherhithe Sarah Maslin married Richard Sissons whose home was Yorkshire but had links to Rotherhithe. He is registered as a gentleman in his will. I think the marriage was around the late 1820s. My great great grandmother Louisa Elizabeth Maslin who later married John Perry of Devizes ,was living with Sarah Maslin who married Richard Sissons and they moved to Yorkshire until Louisa was about thirteen. Amongst them is a Jane Maslin and I believe she is Louisa’s sister. Louisa had a younger sister named Sarah and she went to live with Jane and her husband George Evitt. This was London too. Whilst reading through these notes I have an idea that there may have been a Maslin family linked to a Plank family in Potterne which is a village outside Devizes. Maslin is a Wiltshire name. Sarah the elder returns to Devizes and takes Louisa with her she marries again to Richard Chamberlin. He dies within a year and Sarah marries for the third time to William and they manage The Castle Hotel in Devizes ( I doubt if they own it) There was a lot of money involved and there are hundreds of pages of letters and documents involving the Maslin’s ,Perrys and Banks families. I’m still not totally certain where Louisa Elizabeth Maslin later marrying John Perry in Devizes is from. She seems to be linked to Rotherhithe Maslin’s and although she states that her birth is Covent Garden ,there is no evidence. Anyone reading this can think of a link ? Thank you.
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18 Dec 2024 17:56 |
Welcome to the boards. G83/Alexandra is still a member of Genes so you can click on her name and send her a pm. If she has kept her details up to date then she will get a notification from Genes. Genes do not notify of additions to threads,
You could also look at Search/ search all members trees to see if anyone else has the family in their trees.
London records are pretty good so I’m a bit surprised you haven’t found the birth. As she seems confused where she was born havevyou found any possibilities at all and have you followed the parents through possible moves.
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ErikaH
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18 Dec 2024 18:00 |
The post is actually 16 years old ;-) ;-)
If you would like members to try to help you, dates are essential
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ErikaH
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18 Dec 2024 18:57 |
Sarah Maslin married Richard Sissons in Rotherhithe 03/12/1822
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ErikaH
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18 Dec 2024 19:41 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Brittox, St John, Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Sarah Maslen Head Unmarried Female 19 1832 Milliner London, Middlesex, England Louisa Perry Sister Married Female 27 1824 Milliner London, Middlesex, England Sarah Holloway Apprentice Unmarried Female 18 1833 Milliner Wroughton, Wiltshire, England Georgina Orchard Servant Unmarried Female 17 1834 House maid Potterne, Wiltshire, England
For some idea of DATES………………
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ErikaH
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19 Dec 2024 11:51 |
First name(s) Louisa Elizabeth Spouse's marital status B Last name Maslen Spouse's residence Devizes St John Age Full Spouse's occupation Grocer Birth year - Father's name George Maslen************************ Marital status S Father's occupation Grocer Residence Devizes St John Spouse's father's name William Perry Marriage year 1846 Spouse's father's occupation Farmer Marriage date 19 Sep 1846 Witness 1 Jas Chandler**************************** Place Devizes, St John the Baptist Witness 2 Caroline Thorpe County Wiltshire Record set Wiltshire Marriages Index 1538-1933 Country England Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Spouse's first name(s) Johns Spouse's last name Perry Collections from England, Great Britain Spouse's age Full
Name Louisa Elizabeth Perry Age 69 Estimated Birth Year abt 1824 Registration Quarter Jan-Feb-Mar Death Registration Place Wallingford, Berkshire, United Kingdom Death Date Mar 1893 Volume 2c Page 220
1881 census Name Louisa E. Perry Age 59 Estimated Birth Year abt 1822 Relationship to Head Servant Gender Female Where born London, Middlesex, England Civil parish Shaw cum Donnington County/Island Berkshire Country England Street Address Honey Bottom Marital Status Widow Occupation Servant Registration district Newbury ED, institution, or vessel 13 Neighbors View others on page Piece 1272 Folio 89 Page number 8 Household Members (Name) Age Relationship John B. Banks 34 Head Mary S.S. Banks 32 Wife George S. Banks 3 Son John W. Banks Son Louisa E. Perry 59 Servant Ann Crook 21 Servant
In 1891, she was a patient in the asylum at Cholsey, birthplace 'not known'
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ErikaH
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20 Dec 2024 12:45 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Castle Inn, New Park Street, St Mary, Devizes, Wiltshire, England
William Grace Head Married Male 64 1787 Innkeeper employing 11 men Everleigh, Wiltshire, England Sarah Grace Wife Married Female 59 1792 - Upavon, Wiltshire, England Mary Perry Niece - Female 2 1849 - Devizes, Wiltshire, England Elizabeth Chandler Servant Unmarried Female 33 1818 Bar maid Wilcot, Wiltshire, England Jane Henley Servant Unmarried Female 22 1829 House chambermaid Bromham, Wiltshire, England Emma Mead Servant Unmarried Female 20 1831 Cook Potterne, Wiltshire, England Mary Wiltshire Servant Unmarried Female 17 1834 Kitchen maid Stert, Wiltshire, England Charles Withers Servant Unmarried Male 22 1829 Waiter Devizes, Wiltshire, England Thomas Simmons Servant Unmarried Male 20 1831 Ostler Devizes, Wiltshire, England
Marriages Mar 1841 (>99%) CHANDLER Sarah Devizes 8 425 ****NB.......not Chamberlin GRACE William Devizes 8 425
PERRY, MARY SARAH SISSONS MASLEN GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in OF DEVIZES IN THE COUNTY OF WILTS Volume 08 Page 325 First name(s) Mary Sarah Sissons Residence Devizes St John Last name Perry Place Devizes, St John the Baptist Birth year 1848 County Wiltshire Birth date 30 Aug 1848 Country England Baptism year 1848 Record type Bishop's Transcripts Baptism date 06 Oct 1848 Record set Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917 Father's first name(s) John Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Father's last name Perry Subcategory Parish Baptisms Father's occupation Grocer Collections from England, Great Britain Mother's first name(s) Louisa
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Newpark Street, St Mary the Virgin, Devizes, Wiltshire, England William Grace Male 50 1791 Wiltshire, England Sarah Grace Female 50 1791 Wiltshire, England Dennis Grace Female 52 1789 Wiltshire, England Mary Greenland Female 20 1821 Wiltshire, England William Hapgood Male 25 1816 Wiltshire, England Charles Withers Male 14 1827 Wiltshire, England John Wantner Male 45 1796 Wiltshire, England Louisa Maslen Female 18 1823 Wiltshire, England Louisa Bowden Female 26 1815 Wiltshire, England Alexander Cole Male 21 1820 Wiltshire, England Hannah Willis Female 20 1821 Wiltshire, England Rhoda Wiltshire Female 15 1826 Wiltshire, England James Maslen Male 25 1816 Wiltshire, England Harry Smith Male 17 1824 Wiltshire, England William Florris Male 30 1811 Wiltshire, England
GRACE, SARAH 60 GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in OF DEVIZES IN THE COUNTY OF WILTS Volume 08 Page 243
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20 Dec 2024 14:46 |
Name Mary Sarah Sissons Perry Gender Female Marriage Age 27 Birth Date abt 1849 Marriage or Bann Date 25 Apr 1876 Marriage or Bann Place Marlborough, St Peter and St Paul, Wiltshire Father John Perry Spouse John Biggs Banks Father George Banks
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20 Dec 2024 14:52 |
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 6, Havelock Road, South Hackney, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England
John Perry Head Married Male 40 1821 Superinted engineer machs Devizes, Wiltshire, England Louisa Perry Wife Married Female 36 1825 - Covent Garden, Middlesex, England Mary S Perry Daughter - Female 12 1849 Scholar Devizes, Wiltshire, England Emily Perry Daughter - Female 5 1856 Scholar Middlesex, England Alice P Perry Daughter - Female 3 1858 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England Matilda Ivison Visitor Unmarried Female 25 1836 - Islington, Middlesex, England
Emily was the daughter of John Perry and Matilda Ivison - as per her baptism at the age of 19 in 1875
Name Emily Louisa Perry Baptism Date 11 Jul 1875 Baptism Place Potterne, Wiltshire, England Father John Perry.....................described as a 'Gentleman'!! Mother Matilda Smison
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