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14 Mar 2010 02:11 |
Grandfather Frederick William Langton (DOB - 1867) immigrated to Canada around 1906 - trying to find info re his family in ?Oxfordshire
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Alison
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14 Mar 2010 04:52 |
Hi Anne,
Have you any other information on Frederick?
I can't find a birth for 1867. Is it possible that it could have been 1870? I can see a birth 1870 for a frederick William Langton at Wallingford. The district Wallingford spans the boundaries of the counties of Berkshire and Oxfordshire;
Also passenger a LANGTON F W 1871 M 1906 Liverpool Canada Montreal
Alison
Do you think this could be your Frederick?
Any
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patchem
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14 Mar 2010 07:28 |
In the 1901 census there are 2 obvious Fred Will Langtons, with wives etc, plus Fred Langtons, some possible correctish areas. Could you tell us any possible names for wives or children to work out which one is yours? Thanks.
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Anne
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15 Mar 2010 19:56 |
Thanks. Yes, Frederick married my grandmother in Ontario, Canada in 1908, and had a family of seven children here with her. And right, the marriage certificate might be a source of parent's name. I will check that out.
Appreciate your time.
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Anne
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15 Mar 2010 19:59 |
I do not have an concrete "evidence" of birth date - in family records here in Ontario, Frederick WIlliam was indicated to have DOB of July 31, 1867.
The passenger list certainly may fit the time-frame - he arrived in the area of Ontario where he met and married my grandmother around l906/07.
Thank you, Alison, for that tip.
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patchem
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15 Mar 2010 20:02 |
On his Canadian marriage certificate does it state whether he has been married before, and what is his father's name on it? Also what profession did he have? As he was almost 40 before he went to Canada it is highly possible that he married here, which is why we were looking for a marriage here. Thanks. Sorry, I am asking questions at the same time as someone is giving answers, so we overlap.
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Anne
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15 Mar 2010 20:03 |
Interesting thought of Frederick William's with "wives" in 1901 census. No family history passed down to suggest he had had a wife/children in Britain, but he would have been in late '30's when he came to Canada, so that certainly would be a possibility! Only other concrete fact that we have is that he was R.A. 4440, with postings in places such as Mauritius.
One question always leads to another question! Thanks for looking.
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Alison
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16 Mar 2010 05:31 |
Hi Anne,
Any mention of siblings for William?
Alison
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mgnv
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16 Mar 2010 12:10 |
[Ont Marr - Northern District 1909] 4996-09 Frederick William LANGTON, 38, farmer, of Barrie Island, s/o Charles LANGTON & Ann PENN, married Frances Edith LANE, 24, of Barrie Island, d/o Samuel LANE, farmer & Elizabeth BATTERS, witn: George E. LANE & Miss Martha VANCISE both of Barrie Island on Oct. 27, 1909 at Barrie Island. http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/north09.htm
We can follow the links at: http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001976639.pdf
NB Barrie Island is a small island 12km in diam just N of Manitoulin Island in L Huron. Seems like there's Lanes all over the island.
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Algoma East / 3 Barrie Island / page 4 split view 39 36 Langton Fredrick W M Head M Jul 1869 41 [pob=England 1906] 40 36 Langton Francis E F Wife M Oct 1884 26 [pob=England 1891] 41 36 Langton Charles W M Son S Aug 1909 1 [pob=O] 42 36 Langton Violet Eddith F Daughter S Nov 1910 6/12 [pob=O]
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001976639.pdf
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Algoma East / 3 Barrie Island / page 1 split view 11 3 Lane Lennord M Head S Oct 1888 23 12 3 Lane Sarah F Sister S Nov 1870 40
13 4 Lane Jane E F Head W Sep 1854 56
48 11 Lane George M Head M Mar 1886 25 49 11 Lane Martha F Wife M May 1889 22 50 11 Lane William H M Son S May 1911 correction exists icon 50 11 Lane William H M Son S May 1911 ? days (corrected values) 50 11 Lane William H M Son S May 1911 (current values)
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001976636.pdf
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Algoma East / 3 Barrie Island / page 3 split view 13 22 Lane Charles M Head M Aug 41 14 22 Lane Elizebth F Wife M Jun 1875 35 15 22 Lane Arthur M Son S Oct 1897 13 16 22 Lane Harold B M Son S Sep 1899 11 17 22 Lane Anna May F Daughter S May 1903 8 18 22 Lane Albert E M Son S Jun 1905 5 19 22 Lane Sarah D F Daughter S Apr 1908 3 20 22 Lane Charles H M Son S Jul 1910 10/12
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001976638.pdf
1911 Census of Canada Home / 1911 / Ontario / Toronto West / 114 Toronto / page 7 split view 42 86 Lane Charles M Head M Apr 1881 29 43 86 Lane Gennie F Wife M Sep 1884 26
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002030882.pdf
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON ALGOMA (#44) Subdistrict: Barrie Island D-3 Page 2 Image: View the image with: split screen Images are from National Archives Web Site Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6458 10 13 Lane Samuel M Head W Jul 30 1843 58 11 13 Lane Sarah F Daughter S Nov 4 1870 30 12 13 Lane Charles M Son S Apr 22 1881 19 13 13 Lane Frances F Daughter S Oct 21 1884 16 14 13 Lane George M Son S Mar 9 1886 15 15 13 Lane Lenard W M Son S Oct 7 1887 13 16 14 Lane John M Head M Aug 3 1841 59 17 14 Lane Sarah F Wife M Jul 9 1843 57 18 14 Lane EdithA F Daughter S Jun 6 1883 17
Sched 1 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000050484.pdf Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000050482.pdf [address13=Con 7 L 22, address14=Con 7 L 21] Robt http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000050483.pdf Chas http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000050488.pdf
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON ALGOMA (#44) Subdistrict: Barrie Island D-3 Page 1 17 4 Lane Robert M Head M Dec 28 1872 28 18 4 Lane Alace F Wife M Jul 21 1879 21 19 4 Lane Flossy F Daughter S Apr 13 1897 4 20 4 Lane Sarah F Daughter S Nov 5 1898 2 21 4 Lane Elsey F Daughter S Mar 31 1900 1
1901 Census of Canada Page Information District: ON ALGOMA (#44) Subdistrict: Barrie Island D-3 Page 6 14 49 Lane Charles M Head M Aug 5 1870 30 15 49 Lane Elizabeth A F Wife M Jun 21 1875 25 16 49 Lane Arthur F M Son S Oct 12 1897 3 17 49 Lane Herald B M Son S Sep 19 1899 1
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mgnv
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16 Mar 2010 14:00 |
I know you asked abt your grandad, so maybe you already have this stuff abt your gran:
Births Dec 1884 (>99%) Lane Frances Edith Droxford 2c 134
Name:LANE, Samuel Age:45 Date of Arrival (YYYY/MM/DD) :1891/05/10 Port of Arrival:Quebec, Quebec; Montreal, Quebec Ship:PARISIAN Reference:RG 76 [image 11 of 15 Fanny a=6 & sibs present - off to Gore Bay says image, but in fact they went to Georgian Bay - suggests to me rellies there already]
1891 Samuel Lane abt 1844 city, Somerset, England Head Sarah J Lane name abt 1871 city, Hampshire, England Daughter Robert E Lane name abt 1880 city, Hampshire, England Son Charles E Lane name abt 1883 city, Hampshire, England Son Frances E Lane name abt 1885 city, Hampshire, England Daughter George E Lane name abt 1886 city, Hampshire, England Son Leonard W Lane name abt 1888 city, Hampshire, England Son [rg12/882/78/? Fareham]
1881 Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability Samuel LANE Head M Male 38 Romsey, Hampshire, England Farm Bailiff Elizabeth LANE Wife M Female 38 Southampton, Hampshire, England John LANE Son U Male 13 Romsey, Hampshire, England Farm Servant Margaret DYKE Stepdaugh U Female 12 Southampton, Hampshire, England Elizabeth DYKE Stepdaugh Female 9 Southampton, Hampshire, England Scholar Samuel LANE Son Male 7 Romsey, Hampshire, England Scholar Robert LANE Son Male 1 Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England Henry LANE Son Male 2 m Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling Roke Farm Census Place Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England Family History Library Film 1341302 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1236 / 66 Page Number 7
Civil parish: Bishops Waltham Registration district: Droxford Sub-registration district: Bishops Waltham
Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%) Allsop Sarah Romsey 2c 133 Brown Alfred Gardiner Romsey 2c 133 DYKE Elizabeth Romsey 2c 133 LANE Samuel Romsey 2c 133
Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%) BATTERS Elizabeth S Stoneham 2c 90 DYKE Alfred S. Stoneham 2c 90 Hames Ann S.Stoneham 2c 90 HEAPS Robert South Stoneham 2c 90
1871 Alfred Dyke abt 1846 city Head Elizabeth Dyke abt 1846 Southampton Wife Margeret Dyke abt 1869 city Daughter [rg10/1213/123/? Registration District 100.WINCHESTER Sub-District 4 Twyford]
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Alison
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17 Mar 2010 01:33 |
Hi,
I think that this could be the family of Frederick Grandfather of Anne
Frederick w Langton b 1870 Births Mar 1870 (>99%) ________________________________________ Langton Frederick William Wallingford 2c 358
He may have be born before this but not registerd. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marriage. Maybe parents..marriage Marriages Sep 1865 (>99
Allen Ann Oxford 3a 905
Langton Charles Oxford 3a 905
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1871 Reg. District: Wallingford Sub District: Wallingford Parish: Berrick Salome Enum. District: 7 Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Address: Ewelme Road Berrick, Lower, Berrick Salome County: Berkshire Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LANGTON, Charles Head M 54 1817 Buckinghamshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LANGTON, Ann Wife F 32 1839 Buckinghamshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LANGTON, Annie Daughter F 8 1863 Oxfordshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LANGTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1864 Oxfordshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LANGTON, Joseph Son M 3 1868 Oxfordshire
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LANGTON, William Son M 1 1870 Oxfordshire (Frederick) ?
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DEATHS Jun 1878 (>99%) ________________________________________ LANGTON Charles 64 Henley 3a 371
____________________________________________________ANN Remarries__ ____ MARRIAGE Sep 1878 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LANGTON Anne Henley 3a 889 MAYNARD Frank Henley 3a 889
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1881
1881 Census Mistranscribed.
MAYNARD, Frank Head Married M 24 1857 Ag Lab Swyncombe Oxfordshire
MAYNARD, Ann Wife Married F 40 1841 PEN Buckinghamshire NOTE PEN...Written on the marriage of Frederick in Canada
LANGSTON, Annie Daughter Single F 18 1863 Dressmaker Henley Oxfordshire
LANGSTON, Joseph W Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar Berrick Oxfordshire
LANGSTON, Frederick W Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar Berrick Oxfordshire -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1891
Address: Magpies, Bix County: Oxfordshire
________________________________________ MAYNARD, Frank Head Married M 34 1857 Agricultural Labourer Nettlebed Oxfordshire ________________________________________ MAYNARD, Ann Wife Married F 50 1841 Penn Buckinghamshire ________________________________________ LONGTON, Frederick Stepson Single M 22 1869 Agricultural Labourer Berrick Oxfordshire ________________________________________ LONGTON, Ethel Granddaughter F 4 1887 Nettlebed Oxfordshire
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I haven't been able to pin point Frederick in 1901. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1901 census transcription details for: Nightingale Place, Cookham County: Berkshire
MAYNARD, Frank Head Married M 47 1854 Ordinary Agricultural Laborer Nettlebed Oxfordshire ________________________________________ MAYNARD, Ann Wife Married F 66 1835 Penn Buckinghamshire ________________________________________ LANGTON, Ethel Grand Daughter Single F 14 1887 Housemaid (Domestic) Nettlebed Oxfordshire
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Birth for daughter Annie
Births Jun 1862 (>99%) ________________________________________ ALLEN Annie Langton Henley ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
________________________________________Births Sep 1867 (>99%) ________________________________________ Langton Joseph Charles W Wallingford
Can't find Elizabeth Birth.
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Anne
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18 Mar 2010 04:08 |
Thank you, mgnv ... Yes, you have definitely identified my grandfather - thank you for the work. I grew up on Barrie Island, which is near Gore Bay, on Manitoulin Island, sitting in Georgian Bay, part of Lake Huron.
I am happy to find the names of my great-grandparents, interestingly that ggm was Ann, as I am "Anne"! Hopefully, this will help me find info on siblings who may have remained in England, and any descendants. I believe my grandmother corresponded with a "Cousin Vi" - a Langton relative .... We did have info on grandmother Frances Lane, as she lived with us when I was a child, but not to extent you have documented. Much appreciated.
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Anne
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18 Mar 2010 04:16 |
Alison - since I am new to this, I may not interpret all the info correctly, however, it seems that you are corroborating the info provided previously, but that the great-grandmother's surname was not "Penn" - is that then a place name?
Grandfather Frederick WIlliam was in the R.A., so by 1901 may have been stationed abroad .... did such persons get recorded in any way for the census?
Thanks ... hoping to get more adept at understanding this.
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Alison
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18 Mar 2010 04:48 |
Hi Anne,
Yes Pen is a Place in buckinghamshire., it states on a couple of census that she came from there.
Have a look at the site below.
http://www.aboutbritain.com/towns/penn.asp
I think her name was Allen before she was married.
Yes I know it does take a little getting used to all this family info. Especially when you have so much to take in.
I'm not sure on the overseas 1901census for Frederick, i don't think so but I may be wrong.
Alison
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mgnv
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18 Mar 2010 05:57 |
Once I knew Gore Bay was a place, not a typo, I found it easy enough - abt 12 km E of Barrie Island.
Re Penn, try: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/192864
A very useful gateway is: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html
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Anne
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12 Mar 2013 01:57 |
A few years ago, I started searching for my "Langton" relatives from the Oxfordshire area, and many of you sent me useful information. Time goes by, but lately I have pursued this again, and as always, for as many answers, there are questions!
In 1881 and 1891 census an "Ethel Langton", grand-daughter is listed in the household of Ann (Allen) Langton Maynard & Frank Maynard. Anyone who can direct me to her birth/marriage or anything?
Thank you.
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Flip
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12 Mar 2013 02:25 |
She was actually on the 1891 census age 4 & 1901 age 14.
Possible?
Ethel Langton Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886 Registration district: Henley Inferred County: Oxfordshire Volume: 3a Page: 739
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Anne
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12 Mar 2013 03:05 |
Yes - thanks, I mis-wrote the dates; and actually now found that, and probable marriage Sep. 1909 Henley 3a 2117. Is anyone able to connect her with a spouse with this info?
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Lynski
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12 Mar 2013 03:25 |
Marriages Sep 1909 (>99%) EGGLETON Rose Adelaide Henley 3a 2117 **** LANGTON Ethel Henley 3a 2117 LOVEGROVE David Thomas Henley 3a 2117 **** WARD Arthur Sydney Henley 3a 2117
1911 census ??
WARD, Arthur Sidney Head Married M 23 1888 General Labourer Henley on Thames Oxon VIEW WARD, Ethel Wife Married F 24 1887 Nettlebed Oxon VIEW WARD, Beatrice Ethel Daughter F 0 (8 MONTHS) 1911 Henley on Thames Oxon VIEW
RG number: RG14 Piece: 8043 Reference: RG14PN8043 RG78PN406 RD150 SD1 ED9 SN39 Registration District: Henley Sub District: Henley Enumeration District: 9 Parish: Henley upon Thames Address: 35 Havelock Terrace County: Oxfordshire
Married 1-1/2 years. 1 child born.
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Anne
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12 Mar 2013 03:38 |
Thank you, Lynski ... One more step along the path! :-)
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