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Grandfather Frederick William Langton (DOB - 1867) immigrated to Canada around 1906 - trying to find info re his family in ?Oxfordshire

Hi Anne,

Have you any other information on Frederick?

I can't find a birth for 1867. Is it possible that it could have been 1870?
I can see a birth 1870 for a frederick William Langton at Wallingford.
The district Wallingford spans the boundaries of the counties of Berkshire and Oxfordshire;

Also passenger a LANGTON F W 1871 M 1906 Liverpool Canada Montreal

Alison

Do you think this could be your Frederick?

Any

In the 1901 census there are 2 obvious Fred Will Langtons, with wives etc, plus Fred Langtons, some possible correctish areas. Could you tell us any possible names for wives or children to work out which one is yours?
Thanks.

Thanks.
Yes, Frederick married my grandmother in Ontario, Canada in 1908, and had a family of seven children here with her. And right, the marriage certificate might be a source of parent's name. I will check that out.

Appreciate your time.

I do not have an concrete "evidence" of birth date - in family records here in Ontario, Frederick WIlliam was indicated to have DOB of July 31, 1867.

The passenger list certainly may fit the time-frame - he arrived in the area of Ontario where he met and married my grandmother around l906/07.

Thank you, Alison, for that tip.

On his Canadian marriage certificate does it state whether he has been married before, and what is his father's name on it? Also what profession did he have?
As he was almost 40 before he went to Canada it is highly possible that he married here, which is why we were looking for a marriage here.
Thanks.
Sorry, I am asking questions at the same time as someone is giving answers, so we overlap.

Interesting thought of Frederick William's with "wives" in 1901 census. No family history passed down to suggest he had had a wife/children in Britain, but he would have been in late '30's when he came to Canada, so that certainly would be a possibility! Only other concrete fact that we have is that he was R.A. 4440, with postings in places such as Mauritius.

One question always leads to another question! Thanks for looking.

Hi Anne,

Any mention of siblings for William?

Alison

[Ont Marr - Northern District 1909]
4996-09 Frederick William LANGTON, 38, farmer, of Barrie Island, s/o Charles LANGTON & Ann PENN, married Frances Edith LANE, 24, of Barrie Island, d/o Samuel LANE, farmer & Elizabeth BATTERS, witn: George E. LANE & Miss Martha VANCISE both of Barrie Island on Oct. 27, 1909 at Barrie Island.
http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~maryc/north09.htm


We can follow the links at:
http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001976639.pdf

NB Barrie Island is a small island 12km in diam just N of Manitoulin Island in L Huron.
Seems like there's Lanes all over the island.


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Algoma East / 3 Barrie Island / page 4 split view
39 36 Langton Fredrick W M Head M Jul 1869 41 [pob=England 1906]
40 36 Langton Francis E F Wife M Oct 1884 26 [pob=England 1891]
41 36 Langton Charles W M Son S Aug 1909 1 [pob=O]
42 36 Langton Violet Eddith F Daughter S Nov 1910 6/12 [pob=O]

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001976639.pdf


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Algoma East / 3 Barrie Island / page 1 split view
11 3 Lane Lennord M Head S Oct 1888 23
12 3 Lane Sarah F Sister S Nov 1870 40

13 4 Lane Jane E F Head W Sep 1854 56

48 11 Lane George M Head M Mar 1886 25
49 11 Lane Martha F Wife M May 1889 22
50 11 Lane William H M Son S May 1911
correction exists icon
50 11 Lane William H M Son S May 1911 ? days (corrected values)
50 11 Lane William H M Son S May 1911 (current values)

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001976636.pdf


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Algoma East / 3 Barrie Island / page 3 split view
13 22 Lane Charles M Head M Aug 41
14 22 Lane Elizebth F Wife M Jun 1875 35
15 22 Lane Arthur M Son S Oct 1897 13
16 22 Lane Harold B M Son S Sep 1899 11
17 22 Lane Anna May F Daughter S May 1903 8
18 22 Lane Albert E M Son S Jun 1905 5
19 22 Lane Sarah D F Daughter S Apr 1908 3
20 22 Lane Charles H M Son S Jul 1910 10/12

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e001976638.pdf


1911 Census of Canada
Home / 1911 / Ontario / Toronto West / 114 Toronto / page 7 split view
42 86 Lane Charles M Head M Apr 1881 29
43 86 Lane Gennie F Wife M Sep 1884 26

http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1911/pdf/e002030882.pdf


1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON ALGOMA (#44)
Subdistrict: Barrie Island D-3 Page 2
Image: View the image with: split screen
Images are from National Archives Web Site
Details: Schedule 1 Microfilm T-6458
10 13 Lane Samuel M Head W Jul 30 1843 58
11 13 Lane Sarah F Daughter S Nov 4 1870 30
12 13 Lane Charles M Son S Apr 22 1881 19
13 13 Lane Frances F Daughter S Oct 21 1884 16
14 13 Lane George M Son S Mar 9 1886 15
15 13 Lane Lenard W M Son S Oct 7 1887 13

16 14 Lane John M Head M Aug 3 1841 59
17 14 Lane Sarah F Wife M Jul 9 1843 57
18 14 Lane EdithA F Daughter S Jun 6 1883 17

Sched 1 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000050484.pdf
Sched 2 http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000050482.pdf
[address13=Con 7 L 22, address14=Con 7 L 21]
Robt http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000050483.pdf
Chas http://data2.collectionscanada.gc.ca/1901/z/z002/z000050488.pdf

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON ALGOMA (#44)
Subdistrict: Barrie Island D-3 Page 1
17 4 Lane Robert M Head M Dec 28 1872 28
18 4 Lane Alace F Wife M Jul 21 1879 21
19 4 Lane Flossy F Daughter S Apr 13 1897 4
20 4 Lane Sarah F Daughter S Nov 5 1898 2
21 4 Lane Elsey F Daughter S Mar 31 1900 1

1901 Census of Canada Page Information
District: ON ALGOMA (#44)
Subdistrict: Barrie Island D-3 Page 6
14 49 Lane Charles M Head M Aug 5 1870 30
15 49 Lane Elizabeth A F Wife M Jun 21 1875 25
16 49 Lane Arthur F M Son S Oct 12 1897 3
17 49 Lane Herald B M Son S Sep 19 1899 1

I know you asked abt your grandad, so maybe you already have this stuff abt your gran:

Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
Lane Frances Edith Droxford 2c 134

Name:LANE, Samuel
Age:45
Date of Arrival (YYYY/MM/DD) :1891/05/10
Port of Arrival:Quebec, Quebec; Montreal, Quebec
Ship:PARISIAN
Reference:RG 76
[image 11 of 15 Fanny a=6 & sibs present - off to Gore Bay says image, but in fact they went to Georgian Bay - suggests to me rellies there already]


1891
Samuel Lane abt 1844 city, Somerset, England Head
Sarah J Lane name abt 1871 city, Hampshire, England Daughter
Robert E Lane name abt 1880 city, Hampshire, England Son
Charles E Lane name abt 1883 city, Hampshire, England Son
Frances E Lane name abt 1885 city, Hampshire, England Daughter
George E Lane name abt 1886 city, Hampshire, England Son
Leonard W Lane name abt 1888 city, Hampshire, England Son
[rg12/882/78/? Fareham]

1881 Household:
Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
Samuel LANE Head M Male 38 Romsey, Hampshire, England Farm Bailiff
Elizabeth LANE Wife M Female 38 Southampton, Hampshire, England
John LANE Son U Male 13 Romsey, Hampshire, England Farm Servant
Margaret DYKE Stepdaugh U Female 12 Southampton, Hampshire, England
Elizabeth DYKE Stepdaugh Female 9 Southampton, Hampshire, England Scholar
Samuel LANE Son Male 7 Romsey, Hampshire, England Scholar
Robert LANE Son Male 1 Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England
Henry LANE Son Male 2 m Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England
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Source Information:
Dwelling Roke Farm
Census Place Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341302
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1236 / 66
Page Number 7

Civil parish: Bishops Waltham
Registration district: Droxford
Sub-registration district: Bishops Waltham


Marriages Sep 1878 (>99%)
Allsop Sarah Romsey 2c 133
Brown Alfred Gardiner Romsey 2c 133
DYKE Elizabeth Romsey 2c 133
LANE Samuel Romsey 2c 133

Marriages Dec 1867 (>99%)
BATTERS Elizabeth S Stoneham 2c 90
DYKE Alfred S. Stoneham 2c 90
Hames Ann S.Stoneham 2c 90
HEAPS Robert South Stoneham 2c 90


1871
Alfred Dyke abt 1846 city Head
Elizabeth Dyke abt 1846 Southampton Wife
Margeret Dyke abt 1869 city Daughter
[rg10/1213/123/? Registration District 100.WINCHESTER Sub-District 4 Twyford]

Hi,

I think that this could be the family of Frederick Grandfather of Anne

Frederick w Langton b 1870
Births Mar 1870 (>99%)
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Langton Frederick William Wallingford
2c 358

He may have be born before this but not registerd.
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Marriage.
Maybe parents..marriage
Marriages Sep 1865 (>99

Allen Ann Oxford
3a 905

Langton Charles Oxford
3a 905

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1871

Reg. District: Wallingford Sub District: Wallingford
Parish: Berrick Salome Enum. District: 7
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:

Address: Ewelme Road Berrick, Lower, Berrick Salome
County: Berkshire


Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born

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LANGTON, Charles Head M 54 1817 Buckinghamshire

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LANGTON, Ann Wife F 32 1839 Buckinghamshire

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LANGTON, Annie Daughter F 8 1863 Oxfordshire

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LANGTON, Elizabeth Daughter F 7 1864 Oxfordshire

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LANGTON, Joseph Son M 3 1868 Oxfordshire

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LANGTON, William Son M 1 1870 Oxfordshire (Frederick) ?

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DEATHS Jun 1878 (>99%)
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LANGTON Charles 64 Henley
3a 371

____________________________________________________ANN Remarries__
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MARRIAGE Sep 1878 (>99%)
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LANGTON Anne Henley 3a 889
MAYNARD Frank Henley 3a 889

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1881

1881 Census Mistranscribed.

MAYNARD, Frank Head Married M 24 1857 Ag Lab
Swyncombe
Oxfordshire

MAYNARD, Ann Wife Married F 40 1841
PEN Buckinghamshire NOTE PEN...Written on the marriage of Frederick in Canada

LANGSTON, Annie Daughter Single F 18 1863 Dressmaker
Henley Oxfordshire

LANGSTON, Joseph W Son Single M 13 1868 Scholar
Berrick Oxfordshire

LANGSTON, Frederick W Son Single M 11 1870 Scholar
Berrick Oxfordshire
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1891

Address: Magpies, Bix
County: Oxfordshire

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MAYNARD, Frank Head Married M 34 1857 Agricultural Labourer Nettlebed
Oxfordshire
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MAYNARD, Ann Wife Married F 50 1841 Penn
Buckinghamshire
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LONGTON, Frederick Stepson Single M 22 1869 Agricultural Labourer Berrick
Oxfordshire
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LONGTON, Ethel Granddaughter F 4 1887 Nettlebed
Oxfordshire

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I haven't been able to pin point Frederick in 1901.
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1901 census transcription details for: Nightingale Place, Cookham

County: Berkshire

MAYNARD, Frank Head Married M 47 1854 Ordinary Agricultural Laborer Nettlebed
Oxfordshire
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MAYNARD, Ann Wife Married F 66 1835 Penn Buckinghamshire
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LANGTON, Ethel Grand Daughter Single F 14 1887 Housemaid (Domestic) Nettlebed Oxfordshire

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Birth for daughter Annie

Births Jun 1862 (>99%)
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ALLEN Annie Langton Henley

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________________________________________Births Sep 1867 (>99%)
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Langton Joseph Charles W Wallingford

Can't find Elizabeth Birth.

Thank you, mgnv ...
Yes, you have definitely identified my grandfather - thank you for the work. I grew up on Barrie Island, which is near Gore Bay, on Manitoulin Island, sitting in Georgian Bay, part of Lake Huron.

I am happy to find the names of my great-grandparents, interestingly that ggm was Ann, as I am "Anne"!
Hopefully, this will help me find info on siblings who may have remained in England, and any descendants. I believe my grandmother corresponded with a "Cousin Vi" - a Langton relative .... We did have info on grandmother Frances Lane, as she lived with us when I was a child, but not to extent you have documented. Much appreciated.

Alison - since I am new to this, I may not interpret all the info correctly, however, it seems that you are corroborating the info provided previously, but that the great-grandmother's surname was not "Penn" - is that then a place name?

Grandfather Frederick WIlliam was in the R.A., so by 1901 may have been stationed abroad .... did such persons get recorded in any way for the census?

Thanks ... hoping to get more adept at understanding this.

Hi Anne,

Yes Pen is a Place in buckinghamshire., it states on a couple of census that she came from there.

Have a look at the site below.

http://www.aboutbritain.com/towns/penn.asp

I think her name was Allen before she was married.

Yes I know it does take a little getting used to all this family info. Especially when you have so much to take in.

I'm not sure on the overseas 1901census for Frederick, i don't think so but I may be wrong.


Alison

Once I knew Gore Bay was a place, not a typo, I found it easy enough - abt 12 km E of Barrie Island.

Re Penn, try: http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/192864

A very useful gateway is: http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html

A few years ago, I started searching for my "Langton" relatives from the Oxfordshire area, and many of you sent me useful information. Time goes by, but lately I have pursued this again, and as always, for as many answers, there are questions!

In 1881 and 1891 census an "Ethel Langton", grand-daughter is listed in the household of Ann (Allen) Langton Maynard & Frank Maynard. Anyone who can direct me to her birth/marriage or anything?

Thank you.

She was actually on the 1891 census age 4 & 1901 age 14.

Possible?

Ethel Langton
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1886
Registration district: Henley
Inferred County: Oxfordshire
Volume: 3a
Page: 739

Yes - thanks, I mis-wrote the dates; and actually now found that, and probable marriage Sep. 1909 Henley 3a 2117. Is anyone able to connect her with a spouse with this info?

Thank you, Lynski ...
One more step along the path! :-)