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John Jacob 1879

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Adam

Adam Report 10 Feb 2009 22:07

I am Trying to find out more information John Jacob 1879 he lived at 16 miners row aberdare Mid Glamorgan Wales.

He was married to Mary.

Thanks

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 10 Feb 2009 22:12

what info are you looking for?

Roy

Adam

Adam Report 12 Feb 2009 22:28

Any info helps.

I want info on John Jacob 1879, info on his family and any info on 16 miners row aberdare Mid Glamorgan.

Thanks

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 13 Feb 2009 15:07

Are you sure about the DOB? their is this Jacob family living at 16 miners row aberdare on the 1891 census but John's age is out by 30 year but their son David is down as born 1880

Name: John Jacob
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanybyther (Llanybydder), Cardiganshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Aberdare
Ecclesiastical parish: St Fagans
Town: Llwydcoed
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Jacob 42
Mary Jacob 31
David Jacob 11
Thomas Jacob 3

Roy

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 13 Feb 2009 15:10

possible connection - Hirwaun and Aberdare are prctically next to each other


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Husband's Name
Abraham JACOB (AFN:193N-M00) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1833 Place: Of Hirwain, Pendaryn, Glamorgan, Wales
Married: Place:

Father:
Mother:

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Wife's Name
Jane (AFN:193N-M16) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1837 Place: Of Hirwain, Pendaryn, Glamorgan, Wales
Married: Place:

Father:
Mother:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
M John JACOB (AFN:193N-M2D) Pedigree

Born: 14 Jul 1859 Place: Hirwain, Pendaryn, Glamorgan, Wales
Christened: 28 Oct 1859 Place: Penderyn, Glamorgan, Wales

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2. Sex Name
F Ann JACOB (AFN:193N-M3L) Pedigree

Born: 22 Nov 1873 Place: Hirwain, Pendaryn, Glamorgan, Wales
Christened: 18 Jan 1874 Place: Penderyn, Glamorgan, Wales

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Adam

Adam Report 13 Feb 2009 22:18

Hi thanks for all your help.

Yes I’m 100% on Johns DOB its on his sons birth cert James 27/07/1906.

John’s wife is Mary Morgans DOB?

John’s occupation on the birth cert is colliery ostler

Thanks again for the help

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 13 Feb 2009 22:34

Adam, I have never heard of a fathers DOB being recorded on a son's birth cert

but their is something not right? because this is i think your John on the 1901 census and say's DOB abt 1862 still living at 16 miners row aberdare

but Mary's age is consistant at abt 1861

Name: John Jacob
Age in 1901: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Llanybyther, Carmarthenshire, Wales

Civil Parish: Aberdare
Ecclesiastical parish: St Fagan
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street address: View Image
Condition as to marriage: View Image
Education: View Image
Employment status: View Image
Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 87
Household Members: Name Age
John Jacob 39
Mary Jacob 40
David Morgan 19 Relation: Stepson
Ann Jacob 9
Elizabeth Jacob 6
Sarah Jacob 4
John Jacob 1

Roy

Adam

Adam Report 18 Feb 2009 18:17



Hi,

Thanks again for all your help.

On the birth cert of James under name and surname of father it says

(John then underneath scored out Jago then next to that 27. then underneath that Jacob)

Do you think the 27 stands for something other than John’s age?

I agree that something not right.

Do you think that the years of birth for John are wrong on one of the census? If the 1891 is correct he would be fathering James at 57 otherwise 44 if the 1901 census is correct.

What interest me is (David Morgan 19 Relation: Stepson)

On James Jacobs birth cert his mother is Mary Morgans this could be her son from another father taking her maiden name.

Do you think that the surname is Just Morgan and the s on the end is a mistake?

These people must surly be his family because they have the right surname, parents names and are living at the same address where James was born and a step son living at the address with the surname Morgan?

Thanks for your help
Adam



Helen

Helen Report 4 Oct 2013 00:49

Trying to find for a friend her relatives of John Watkin Jacob from Hirwain. He married a Catherine but I believe his parents were Abraham Jacob and Mary. Any leads would be most grateful

Thanks

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Oct 2013 10:00

Helen

It would be better to start a thread of your own.....................the one to which you have added is well over four years out of date.

Click on'add topic'.........and post your request....giving dates, which are vital

Have you done any research yourself?

Try looking at........................

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Here's a kick-start for you..................................

Marriages Dec 1933 (>99%)

Jacob John W Williams Bridgend 11a 1780
Williams Catherine Jacob Bridgend 11a 1780

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Oct 2013 10:04

Actually, as Adam seems to be long gone..............I'll post info here

1911 census


Person: JACOB, John Watkin Address: 123 Oxford ST

JONES, Watkin Head Single M 38 1873 Hairdresser Rhigos Glamorgan VIEW
JONES, John Father Widower M 70 1841 Retired Miner Abernant Glam VIEW
JACOB, John Watkin Nephew Single M 20 1891 Hairdresser Hirwain Glam VIEW
LLOYD, John Boarder Single M 48 1863 Insurance Agent Blaina Mon

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Oct 2013 10:05

1901 census


Person: JACOB, John Watkin Address: 3, High Street, Aberdare, Hirwaen

JACOB, Isaac Head Married M 36 1865 Coal Miner Hewer
Hirwaen, Glamorganshire VIEW
JACOB, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1867
Hirwaen, Glamorganshire VIEW
JACOB, Maggie Jane Daughter Single F 9 1892
Hirwaen, Glamorganshire VIEW
JACOB, John Watkin Son Single M 11 1890
Hirwaen, Glamorganshire VIEW
HILL, Maggie Ann Visitor Single F 8 1893
Pontycymmer, Glamorganshire

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Oct 2013 10:06

Your friend would be wise to purchase the marriage cert.........for confirmation of John's age and occupation..............and his father's details

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Oct 2013 10:11

1891 census


Person: JACOB, John W Address: 1b, High Street, Aberdare, Cwmdare

JONES, Jno Head Widower M 50 1841 Coal Miner
Aberdare, Glamorganshire VIEW
JACOB, Isaac Boarder Married M 25 1866 Coal Miner
Aberdare, Glamorganshire VIEW
JACOB, Elizabeth Boarder Married F 24 1867
Aberdare, Glamorganshire VIEW
JACOB, John W Boarder Single M 0 (6M) 1891
Aberdare, Glamorganshire VIEW
JONES, Mary Boarder Widow F 84 1807
Llansamlet, Glamorganshire

Elizabeth's maiden name was JONES

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 4 Oct 2013 10:12

1881 census


Person: JONES, Watkin Address: Railway Inn Cot, Rhigos

JONES, John Head Married M 40 1841 Coal Miner
Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, Jennet Wife Married F 36 1845
Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, Sarah Ann Daughter Single F 16 1865
Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 14 1867
Aberdare, Glamorganshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, Watkin Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar
Rhigos, Glamorganshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, Mary Daughter Single F 3 1878
Rhigos, Glamorganshire, Wales VIEW
JONES, Margaret Daughter Single F 0 1881
Rhigos, Glamorganshire, Wales

Helen

Helen Report 6 Oct 2013 22:46

Many thanks for this. I've been looking at the 1911 census and was giving her some information to get her started - she was also going to ask another family member in case they had any more information.

If she wants to find out more then I'll post another thread.

H