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Was just looking at this old thread of mine and thought an update on my Research would be good.
Because of the most fantastic help here, I was able to find out that Mary Ann Wicks was b.1818 in Norwich, daughter of Solomon Wicks (Wiltshire Militia, serving in Norwich) and Eleanor Ivory b. Norwich. I found out they moved with their growing Family down to live in Steeple Ashton, Wilts, Solomon`s home. In the Census`they appear to have been very, very poor indeed. Mary Ann their daughter, m. a James Cadby in 1842 Melksham.There I was stuck, so had to have help from a Researcher . He discovered that James was rather a bad lot and spent time in prison. It seems that he was sent to Australia in 1855-his Age was given as older in the prison Records but all else tallied.. He had tried to strangle Mary Ann, in Melksham, I have a newspaper Report! Their daughter Louisa Priscilla, was the biggest shock, my grandfather had always said his mother had died aged 38. Well we found out she spent c.43 years in Devizes Mental Home Roundway, not dying until 1933. On request we were sent all her records, they make traumatic reading. So yes, I have my answers and others. It has left my Family rather shocked and I feel rather guilty for having dug so deeply. Sometimes perhaps it is better to leave well alone. If my experiences help at all, records of People in the workhouse, mental homes and prisons, are often not shown in the census`.
I could write a book on my experience, it took me down a road that was very unexpected to say the least.

Best of luck Julie - just let us know how you get on.

Nite nite,

Dea x

Dear Ann, Dea, Peter and all my lovely helpers. This evening I got in touch with a lady who had an Eleanor Ivory-thanks Ann- in her tree and would you believe it she did marry a Solomon Wicks of Steeple Ashton and she has a Mary Ann 1818 their daughter among other children. I am hoping that if I can verify the relationship with her then ofcourse James Cadby would be the husband. My gt. Gran didn`t die until 1933-45 years inside! her husband was long dead Dea, so their was nothing written just the Dr. of the Asylum. Believe me you have all helped so much today .I am going to sleep on it-we are an hour in front of Britain-and tomorrow start to unravel all the bits.
Night ,Night everybody,
j.

Julie,

Who was the informant on the death cert?

Was there an address or any other details?

Dea x

Julie - I only put Edward Ivory in because of the Eleanor Ivory connection - thought it might be of interest as it appears to be part of the family - if you are looking in Peter, perhaps that answers your pm to me

Ann

I found the mental home- Devizes even got the Death certificate but nothing else, about her family. Tell me what am I missing???

You have a great clue to follow there - have you followed it?

"My grandfather never spoke of his mother -as she had died when he was 8, no one told him she was in a Mental home."

Dea x

It will need some working through but come back to us when you have digested it and we can take another look !

Dea x

wowy ,thanks all of you so much for taking time out to help me in my search. I am absolutely blown away with it all. I can see why it is so difficult because I would never ever have thought of someone from Norwich that`s miles away.....I agree the names fit quite well. My grandfather never spoke of his mother -as she had died when he was 8, no one told him she was in a Mental home.Therefore she was forgotten and her whole family too.Very sad, I want to do this for my nieces who might have children one day and have Baby Blues as my own mother did and suffered hell, thank heavens they didn`t lock her up-she is marvellous!
Have a lovely w/e all of you, Julie xxxxx

Husband
EDWD IVORY Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
ELNR DAVEY Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage:
Death:
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Children

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1. ELNR IVORY Pedigree
Female

Birth: 03 JAN 1793
Christening: 06 JAN 1793 St Margaret, Norwich, Norfolk, England
Death:
Burial:

Wow Nerine - well done!!

Why could I not find that??

What I did find though was:

MARY ANN CADBY -
Parents:
Father: SOLOMON WICKS Family


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Marriages:
Spouse: GEORGE ROSE Family
Marriage: 24 FEB 1870 Steeple-Ashton, , Wiltshire, England



Messages:
Extracted marriage record

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Then on 1841:

Solomon Wicks
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1796
Gender: Male
Where born: Wiltshire, England

Civil Parish: Steeple Ashton
Hundred: Whorwelsdown
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Melksham
Sub registration district: Melksham
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Solomon Wicks 45
Elenor Wicks 46 b Norwich, Norfolk
John Wicks 15
Edward Wicks 15
Louisa Wicks 15
Alford Wicks 14
Priscilla Wicks 10
Prudence Wicks 7


Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 1188; Book: 9; Civil Parish: Steeple Ashton; County: Wiltshire; Enumeration District: 13; Folio: 3; Page: 10; Line: 3; GSU roll: 464203.

Mary Ann is no longer with them but the names all seem to follow down the family?

Looks like a possibility that they came from Norfolk?

MARY ANN WEEKS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 04 SEP 1818

Christening: 02 SEP 1820 Calvert Street-Wesleyan, Norwich, Norfolk, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: SOLOMON WEEKS Family
Mother: ELEANOR


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record for the

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Birth: 04 DEC 1810

Christening: 09 DEC 1810 Saint Martin At Oak, Norwich, Norfolk, England

Parents:
Father: SOLOMON WICKS Family
Mother: ELEANOR IVORY


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Messages:
Extracted birth or christening record

Worth following at least?

Dea x

Yea, it is and you are right Caddy must be Cadby. Who was his father though,that is the sticky question? I really thought I had it sussed but oh dear!

Hi Peter, yes it was a slip, thanks!!! It must have been her alright,reckon she had a lively life, perhaps she was never married before!!

Thanks Peter,

So this is them on 1871:

George Rose
Age: 38
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A
Gender: Male
Where born: Steeple Ashton, Wiltshire, England
Civil Parish: Steeple Ashton
Town: Steeple Ashton
County/Island: Wiltshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Westbury
Sub registration district: Edington
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 52
Household Members: Name Age
James Angell 81
Soloman Caddy 19 .........Cadby !!
George Rose 38
James Rose 44
Mary A Rose 50



Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 1929; Folio: 54; Page: 9; GSU roll: 830873.

Source Information:


Dea x

Thanks A,but they they had children, Louisa, Soloman( 1855), Mary Ann(1860) and William( 1864) she then appears to have married a William Rose(1832) in 1870 and lived in Wilts.It is very, very difficult.

Hi Trilly, no, I haven`t as I live abroad, but guess that`s the only way, thanks.
J.

1881 census

James CADBY Head M Male In Cardiff At Work
Mary A. CADBY Wife M Female 29 Devizes, Wiltshire, England
William CADBY Son U Male 14 Bath, Somerset, England Butchers Boy
James CADBY Son U Male 13 Bath, Somerset, England Scholar
Rosina CADBY Daur U Female 9 Bath, Somerset, England Scholar
Louisa CADBY Daur U Female 7 Bath, Somerset, England Scholar
John CADBY Son U Male 6 Bath, Somerset, England Scholar
Beatrice CADBY Daur U Female 2 Bath, Somerset, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 59 Avon St.
Census Place Walcot, Somerset, England
Family History Library Film 1341587
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 2441 / 32
Page Number 22

Have you ordered her birth cert
Louisa Priscilla Cadby
Year of Registration: 1852
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Melksham
County: Wiltshire
Volume: 5a
Page: 118 (click to

Please I need help again....I have Louisa Priscilla Cadby (1852) plus mother Mary Ann(1816) all born Semington, Wilts. and no Father. Have had suggestions that James Cadby (1817) and a Mary Ann Weekes m. Sept 1843 were likely but somehow can`t quite get that as there were possibly two older children who do not fit into the pattern. Is there any other way I can find out before giving up the search? I have all details but -The FATHERS.
Julie